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'Triomphe du Luxembourg' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 129-686
most recent 15 NOV 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 15 NOV 21 by Margaret Furness
The Journal of Horticulture in Australia, 1909, which has many inaccuracies, gives Duc de Plantier as a synonym.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 15 NOV 21 by jedmar
The name 'Duc de Plantier' is unknown from any other source. It is possible that European roses were renamed for the local market in Australia (see 'Lord Tarquin'), but adding these as synonyms could be quite confusing. If there are several sources corroborating these "synonyms2, they might be added as "hidden" names to enable search.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 15 NOV 21 by Margaret Furness
Yes, hard to know what to do with this information, but I thought it was worth documenting.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 15 NOV 21 by HubertG
There is a reference to 'Duc de Plantier' in 'The Sydney Mail and NSW Advertiser' of 27 March, 1886, page 638, as follows:

"Duc de Plantier plentifully produces its very attractive salmon purple-coloured flowers: as these have a rather drooping habit it should make a very beautiful high pillar rose."

No mention of it as a synonym for anything else.

Also, as early as 1864 it was exhibited at one of the monthly Horticultural Society meetings in Sydney as recorded in 'The Empire' 7 October, 1864, page 4:

"Mr Golding - specimens of [...] General Jacquemot [sic], Devoniensis, Caroline de sansal and Duc de Plantier roses".
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Discussion id : 75-623
most recent 19 DEC 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 DEC 13 by drogers
The photo section shows a plate from 1841 posted by "billy teabag'. It shows yellow in the flower, yet I see none in the photos that are posted. Does anyone have any insight into the reason for the difference ?
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 19 DEC 13 by Margaret Furness
Yes, have a look at the 2008 reference, from the Tea Rose book. The rose in circulation under the name now is not correct - it may be 'Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux'. Nice rose anyway.
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Discussion id : 4-451
most recent 25 FEB 04 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Daniel Hanna
I found that the fragrance is average for a typical tea rose. Nice, but not as strong as Duchesse de Brabant, for example. The flowers are also larger than some teas - almost on a par with Maman Cochet, and bigger than both Duchesse de Brabant and Monsieur Tillier.

The petals of this rose are shaded darker pink on the reverse, causing the colour variations in the folded centre petals. Despite the messy appearance in photographs, the effect 'in the flesh' is charming. It's worth seeing in 3 dimensions if you get the chance.

I chose this rose for its rarity and interesting history. It didn't come from Luxembourg, but rather the Luxembourg gardens at Paris where Hardy was the chief horticulturalist. It was a famous and much sought after early tea. It apparently sold for 35 francs in 1835 - more than the average weekly wage at the time.
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