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'Mr. Brown's Rose' Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 117-394
most recent 3 JUL 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 JUL 19 by Elizabeth
I was looking for Paul’s Himalayan Musk Rose. Is this the same rose? There is information about it here:
https://www.gardenia.net/plant/rose-pauls-himalayan-musk
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 JUL 19 by jedmar
No, you need to look for Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler.
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Discussion id : 65-432
most recent 28 JUN 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 JUN 12 by CybeRose
RHODOLOGIA: A discourse on roses, and the odour of rose (1844)
Rose Perfumes
John Charles Sawer

In R. Brunonii, Lindl. (a moss variety of R. moschata, Miller), the hispido-glandulous system which thickly covers the pedicels and sepals, develops a fine odour of pinks.
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Discussion id : 17-283
most recent 13 MAR 07 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 MAR 07 by meliana
Can this rose take some part shade, like the hybrid musks?
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Discussion id : 5-273
most recent 7 AUG 06 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest
What zones can the rosa moschata be grown in?
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 25 JAN 04 by The Old Rosarian
Rosa moschata is a tender rose and must be well protected in the winter in zone 8. Zone 9 is ideal for it .
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 6 AUG 06 by christie

i'm confused.


thought i had identified a rose as moschata.  the main description  indicates a hardiness of z4-10.


however, post from o rosarian (not someone you would doubt) says rose is extremely tender, ie z 9-10.


which is accurate?


does anyone know individual bloom size?


thanks in advance, christie


 


 

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Reply #3 of 4 posted 6 AUG 06 by The Old Rosarian
If you are confused then you are in good company ,Graham Stuart Thomas was also confused. He writes that many  horticulturists in the early days,labeled musk rose or rosa moschata incorrectly  when they was describing rosa brunonii and rosa dupontii. The original musk rose was a native of the Pyrnees but has long been lost to cultivation. A variety can be found in England . One of the features of this rose in defining whether or not it is a true musk, is when it blooms. Apparently musk roses only bloom at the end of summer and into autumn. The only other rose blooming then is the Autumn Damask. So all that said, it looks like it depends where the rose originated and therefore could be much hardier than I said. I bow my head in humility.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 7 AUG 06 by christie

thank you for your response.


given the further information you provided, regardless of zone, my rose cannot be moschata as it was a spring bloomer. 


i was not aware that true musks bloomed  only in the autumn.  unusual i would think.   although, it would then make sense that moschata was in fact a warm zone rose.   a more temperate zone would be able to provide the additional time (from august bloom) needed to set fruit.


thanking you,  christie

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