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'KORbirac' rose Reviews & Comments
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What a great rose! For me Caribbean falls into the category with Camelot of roses that don't get the respect they deserve. Why it's not more widely available I don't know. It is vigorous, it blooms frequently, the color is beautiful, it stands out nicely in the garden. It's just an all-around great rose. It may not be the best at anything, but it's very good at most everything.
Sometimes we grow roses because of a unique color but they're a fussy plant, or maybe we are taken by the shape and size of one rose but deal with its other shortcomings. Rose gardeners can be gluttons for punishment if the reward is what we consider worth it. That's why a rose like Caribbean can be appreciated by a rose gardener because its just happy to be there blooming its heart out. It's almost as though the plant is like, "It's ok. Go tend to the others, I know they need more help than I do. I'll just be over here putting on a show and putting a smile on your face when you have the time to stop and appreciate me."
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You participation is greatly appreciated. Your plant specific experience is quite helpful.
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JP probably discontinued it because their own 'Brass Band' and 'Artistry' won the AARS soon after, which is in the same color range, but without having to pay Kordes royalties. I know they also carried 'Dynasty' around that time, as well.
I think Edmunds also carried it, but I cant really recall.
I still own Artistry. Its more of a staple than anything, because I don't truly like it. Its an easy-doer that I don't have to water and it blooms a lot. But its a massive rose and the tone of orange is rather flat. Its stuck between not being orange, pink, coral, or terra cotta, but more of a matte dark coral. 'Artistry' had the staying power in the industry, probably because its a super easy rose and proprietary to JP, but its definitely not as pretty as 'Caribbean'.
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Probably my favorite orange rose to exist yet, but I haven't grown it for eons. The vigor is good. The rebloom is good. The color and form are super cool. The foliage is okay. But the stems are absolutely agitating. They are strong at the base and the peduncles are strong. But the mid-sections are very thin, which causes a lot of snapped stems. It's very frustrating.
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Caribbean just won't stop blooming. It is full of buds from early spring and blooms late into the fall. Very vigorous and must be pruned hard or it will grow over 6 feet tall. Why this rose isn't more available commercially is a mystery.
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Do you know where I might locate Caribbean? I loved that rose when i planted it at a former home. I'd love to get it again but have had no luck finding it. Any ideas are welcome.
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There are several nurseries which have indicated that they carry this rose in their inventory listed under the BUY FROM tab located in the upper right hand portion of the rose page for 'Caribbean'
Smiles,
Lyn
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#3 of 3 posted
23 JUL 17 by
 jmile
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Roses Unlimited---own root.
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this rose is lovely. When I check the listings for where to buy I don't see that any US nurseries currently have it except Hortico and the information they have with Caribbean is a salmon pink floribunda. What?
Anyone know how to find THIS rose?
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When I first got into fragrant roses, I made the mistake of falling in love with one particular one, while ignoring other better ones. I sniffed Austin Eglantyne at nearby rose park and fell in love with its scent. Paid $30 to get Austin Eglantyne own-root, it died through the 1st winter. Paid $25 to get another Eglantyne own-root, it died after a few years .. and the scent was never as good as the rose park (grafted on Dr. Huey).
It's easier to find BETTER ones than what one is focused on, than pursuing a particular one, just to be disappointed. There are plenty of orange roses to consider. I re-post my discussion with Lavenderlace on this class of roses for great scent & suited for alkaline soil/water and hot & dry climate:
"About Chrysler Imperial smells better in high heat. A CA guy wrote about that, and Chrysler Imperial smells "light grassy" in cold weather here. I did an advanced search in HMF for Pernetiana roses (thrive in hot & dry & alkaline soil) ... and found these sold as own-roots at Burlington roses in CA: Soleil d' Or, Condesa de Sastago (KBW grows in his hot Pakistan), Cuba, Amelia Earhart, Betty Uprichard, Talisma, Girona, Gruss an Coberg, and Shot silk. These Pernetiana roses do well in hot & dry & alkaline area .. they are very fragrant, plus LOW-THORN.
Cliff posted a fantastic pic. of Cuba at 100 F heat. Cuba is listed in HMF as almost thornless. Burling informed me that Sutter's Gold and Talisma are low-thorn in her California nursery." Also Burlington nursery is in Vista, CA .. she mails 6 roses in one medium-flat rate box ($13), and her roses are appropriate for Southern CA .. her prices are either $14 or $15 each, but $10 for mini and mini-flora roses.
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there are SO MANY roses and SO MANY tastes. Gitte is the only one I really have my heart set on right now and that's for it's form. My soil is smack dab neutral so I'm not concerned about finding roses that handle alkaline.
and thanks for the tip on that nursery! I love adding excellent mail order nurseries to my list!
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Roseseek (Kim Rupert) got into roses way before me, and made the same mistakes like I did. He was set on a blue Buck rose, and that turned out a big disappointment due to soil and climate UNSUITABLITY. That's the same mistake I made with Austin Eglantyne. Now I learn that when I'm set on a rose, explore other possibilities, and soon I realize what I was fixated on, wasn't worth it, or wasn't appropriate for my soil and climate. Lots of Californians buy roses from Heirloom (rainy climate) and was disappointed that their roses don't perform like where it's sold (rainy & cool England, or Oregon).
Now the rose that I'm thrilled with is what's best for my current hot & dry weather, Bohemian Rhapsody, bred by Robert Neil Rippetoe in warm California. We have 3 weeks of no rain, current temp. at 90, and that rose is a gem in my garden. Austin roses fade horribly in hot sun.
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23 JUL 17 by
jmile
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Roses Unlimited has this rose in own root.
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