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'Courier' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 117-551
most recent 2 MAY 20 SHOW ALL
Initial post 14 JUL 19 by Patricia Routley
We still have no earlier substantiation of the 1994 quoted parentage of R. gigantea x Archiduc Joseph.
If Simon Voorwinde is still out there, I have one six month old cutting of Courier (provenance Kodja Place) still making up its mind whether to live or die. I might be able to tell him in about three years if it sets hips, or doesn’t.
Later edit - cutting died.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 1 MAY 20 by HubertG
I've seen a reference to the pollen parent being "A. Joseph" before, but I simply can't find it, or even say that it's not the 1994 reference that I've seen. However, Alister Clark did certainly grow 'Archiduc Joseph' as early as 1906 because it was used by him in a large floral display at the Melbourne Autumn Rose Show as written in the Australasian newspaper of 5 May, 1906, page 10.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 1 MAY 20 by Patricia Routley
The fact that you SHARE what you have found, makes you a most valuable HelpMeFind member.
(It is May and I need to email or Private Message ? you on a plant in transit.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 2 MAY 20 by HubertG
Patricia, many thanks, that's very kind of you. I've said before that HMF is simply the best rose database/website in the world, so I'm only too happy to contribute what I can.
I've sent you a PM.
Discussion id : 82-929
most recent 2 FEB 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 2 FEB 15 by Give me caffeine
Here's one for the experts. I noticed the following in the references for this rose:

"(Rose Gardens of Australia, p 39) ...It resents hard pruning, and I have found by trial and error that it is not compatible with R. multiflora understocks."

Is this incompatibility with R. multiflora root stock a known thing with Clark's R. gigantea hybrids? Or is this reference just an odd but unconfirmed opinion?
Reply #1 of 2 posted 2 FEB 15 by Jane Z
Nieuwesteeg used multiflora rootstock, so the chance of multiflora/gigantea incompatibilty per se seems unlikely. Equally though it's also unlikely that Susan Irvine's comment was made lightly or without consideration, so perhaps Courier is a little tricky with some/most multiflora clones. Would be interesting to hear JN's opinion. (I've had a number of Clark hybrid giganteas growing on different multiflora clones)
Reply #2 of 2 posted 2 FEB 15 by Margaret Furness
Some of my Clarks are on multiflora, in slightly acid soil, and some on their own roots. All thriving.
Discussion id : 74-452
most recent 7 OCT 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 7 OCT 13 by Simon Voorwinde
Does 'Courier' set hips at all?
Discussion id : 54-936
most recent 10 JUN 11 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 7 JUN 11 by markk
courier is really worthy of a rose grown more. Its stunning flowers open from buds pointed and very elegant, delicate pink color is a darker exterior of the petals. The flower has a good consistency, the opening of the flowers is very slow and this feature gives the plant a very long flowering.
The scent is delicious.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 10 JUN 11 by billy teabag
I agree with you wholeheartedly! The foliage of this rose is marvellous too - not only very attractive in its own right, but tough and disease resistant.
Are you finding a number of the blooms come with another small bud forming inside the bloom?
Reply #2 of 2 posted 10 JUN 11 by markk
In fact, Courier has a very nice foliage, typical of the pink gigantea, and rarely gets sick.
I am very excited about this plant, really valuable.
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