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'Venucci Bicolor Pink' rose Reviews & Comments
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I've uploaded 5 pics of a plant that may be 'Betty' cl. Would Margaret and Billy Teabag please take a look at those photos, and anyone who is familiar with Betty, and see if you think it's a match?
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Alas, my acquaintance with Betty is limited to rapid photos during brief visits to the HRIA Collection at Renmark, when it was under our care. I've flagged your question to Billy, who has grown it, as far as I know.
It would be great if there were a climbing version still in existence and it could be spread around.
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#2 of 5 posted
18 SEP 22 by
Duchesse
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Thankyou Margaret. I think I saw a bush at Toowoomba state rose garden also.
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If you look at the page for the bush form, and click on Gardens, Toowoomba comes up. Their plant came from Renmark budwood, originally from WA. I don't think the Renmark one was a climber.
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Hi Duchesse
Have you been able to gather any history of this plant such as approximately when it was planted? Is there a particular reason you suspect it is Betty?
It is very difficult to be certain about a rose when you can't see it in person but there are a couple of features that make me doubt that identity. Looking at the serrations on the edges of the leaves of your plant, they are a strong feature - very pronounced. My plant of Betty doesn't have such conspicuously serrated leaves.
Does your plant show any quirks regarding the colour of the stems as they age?
Would you be able to take more photos of the buds and blooms, showing the bud in profile and the shape of the receptacle please?
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#5 of 5 posted
27 SEP 22 by
Duchesse
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Thanks for taking a look. I am inquiring on behalf of the owner. It was transplanted from an old house. So original details not available. The new owner just broke her ankle and is housebound for a while. But she is keen to investigate and I can ask her for more photos when she is well again.
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1918 The Rose Annual
p74. H. R. Darlington. A Study of Form in the Rose. 'Lady Battersea' an early Rose long in the bud, is purely decorative……We may trace the decorative type, of which I have taken ‘Lady Battersea’ as an example, in very varying form through ‘Edu Meyer’, looser and less shapely, through Betty, good in August, ’Mme. Segond-Weber’, ‘Mrs. Alfred Tate’ and ‘Dorothy Ratcliffe’ to ‘Ophelia’, one of our most successful garden Roses…..
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Available from - Rogue Valley
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Proc. and Bull. American Rose Society (1908) pp. 55-61
Essay on Hybridisation.
By Alex. Dickson, Acting Director of Alex. Dickson & Sons, Ltd., Royal Irish Nurseries, Newtownards, County Down.
Out of many hundreds of crosses with this rose [La France], only in one single instance did we succeed in making it produce seed, but we feel that the labour we spent was amply repaid, as the ultimate result of it was the introduction of Mrs. W. J. Grant, known to you as Belle Siebrecht, in our opinion one of the finest roses in cultivation, at least from the Britishers' standpoint. In addition to this, we have always found from practical experience, the roses descended from this particular cross have always impressed their offspring with some at least of the more prominent qualities of the parents, and it was pursuing this particular line of breeding that enabled us to produce varieties, which from a British standpoint are ideal exhibition flowers, and at the same time the plants are floriferous and of excellent constitution. In this group we might mention ... Betty ...
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