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"Jesse Hildreth" rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 118-014
most recent 15 AUG 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 15 AUG 19 by Margaret Furness
Worth comparing with Mrs Harold Brocklebank? But in my garden Mrs HB can be pinker, flowers less drooping, not as old as Jesse Hildreth is thought to be.
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Discussion id : 107-232
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Initial post 30 DEC 17 by Margaret Furness
Would someone please post a receptacle photo? Does it set hips? Is it scented like a Tea, or a Tea-noisette?
It may be yellower than "Yallum Park Cream", which we think is Tea-noisette and gets big, but it's worth comparing. YPC does show its stamens eventually. It has a sweet scent, which wafts.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 11 AUG 19 by Jeri Jennings
I'm the wrong person to speak to the fragrance, as I don't smell most roses. I can smell Jesse, however.

As for the receptacle ... not easy, as they seem to be somewhat minimal, and the aged sepals curl down and cover them. I will upload photos.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 12 AUG 19 by Patricia Routley
We look forward to the receptacle photo Jeri. I have added “Sets NO hips” to the main page.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 13 AUG 19 by Jeri Jennings
OK. Now, you've got your receptacle image -- I had to remove a sepal to reveal it. And I've added a leaf, from front and back.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 13 AUG 19 by Patricia Routley
Thanks.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 13 AUG 19 by Patricia Routley
Thanks for that Jeri. As far as I can see, the sepals of “Jesse Hildreth” reflex back down and curl over the receptacle as soon as they separate from the bud. This is a good clue to look for when considering possibilities. We have only two actual photos of ‘Cornelia Cook’ and it seems its sepals reflex straight down, with no curling around the receptacle. To me it is doubtful that “Jesse Hildreth” is ‘Cornelia Cook’.
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Reply #6 of 5 posted 14 AUG 19 by Jeri Jennings
And, really LOOKING at it, it seems to me that the receptacle is on the small side, and rather flattened -- where others I look at are more rounded and a bit larger. An interesting point of identification, perhaps.
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Discussion id : 68-992
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Initial post 24 DEC 12 by Patricia Routley
Jeri - In the Habit description, you have put "holly-like foliage".
I don't know what causes this, or whether it is an inherited trait.
I have seen it in my garden in just two roses: 'Mrs. Dunlop Best' whose parentage is not known, so that is no help.

And in 'Bon Silene'. This rose has far few petals than "Jesse Hildreth" and the parentage is also not known, but there are two white descendants:
'White Bon Silene' 1884 which is described as semi-double and so I would discount this.
And 'Annie Cook' 1888. On the very slim chance that the holly-like foliage is an inherited trait, this last rose may bear considering although I feel that being a sport of 'Bon Silene'. it too, may not have enough petals.
Patricia
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 21 APR 18 by HubertG
I just came across this beautiful rose! Surely Cornelia Cook has to be a serious contender for its real identity.
Some of the early references, however, describe Cornelia Cook as pure white, although it's more often described as shaded straw or pale yellow. I would love to grow 'Jesse Hildreth'!
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 21 APR 18 by Patricia Routley
Wouldn't we all. From my very distant screen, that seems an excellent guess, HubertG.
Keeping in mind any artistic licence, I note there are quite a few receptacles shown in the artist's representation of 'Cornelia Cook', and none at all in the "Jessie Hildreth" file. We could do with good side-on photos of "Jesse Hildreth" buds.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 11 AUG 19 by Jeri Jennings
Nope. We've seen "Jesse Hildreth" and 'Cornelia Cook' side-by-side, and they are quite different.
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Reply #4 of 3 posted 12 AUG 19 by Patricia Routley
I didn’t realise ‘Cornelia Cook’ was in commerce. There is nobody listing it and the only nurseries carrying it are archives.
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Reply #5 of 3 posted 12 AUG 19 by Jeri Jennings
It's in the Heritage.
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Reply #6 of 3 posted 13 AUG 19 by Jeri Jennings
I was going to say -- It's very difficult to tell from that old BW photo, but I think those leaves are more rounded -- Orbicular. And perhaps thicker. Where Jesse's foliage is more elliptical, and while glossy, it is distinctly glabrous. I guess I need to take foliage photos for you.

As to receptacles -- the reason I haven't given them much thought is that they are smallish, and quite covered by the sepals.
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