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This is the second year for 'Madame Caroline Testout' in our garden. The Madame was received as a rooted cutting and had grown to about 3 feet by years end. This year her growth is not as rapid as it was last year (now she is about 3.5 feet ), but she is rarely without bloom (there has always been at least one bloom) and she is also very fragrant! The blooms are quite large and upon opening are a bright pink edged with carmine-pink. As the blooms age the carmine seems to be absorbed into the pink color of the blossom. Other than her remontancy, and fragrance, she has exhibited very little black spot (about 5 percent of the plant seems to be affected) and no die-back in our garden.
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I have a rose which the previous gardener has identified as Caroline Testout. I am attaching a photo which I hope will help you tell me if the rose I have is the Madame.
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Hi. Its really difficult to identify a rose from a photo, I would like to see the various blooms in their life cycle-- almost open to blown; I would also like to see the canes and prickles-- having said that, the picture you posted looks very similar to the blooms and leaves on my Madame. In addition, the petals on my Madame are inclined to cup and turn inward-- also the flowers have darker centers (tinted carmine) and as far as my nose is concerned, there Very Fragrant. Unlike the Madame, my rose does not ball when wet, they hang down, the canes have a problem supporting the weight of the wet blossoms. You may also want to checkout the various photos of the Madame in HMF, Click the Rose Tab, bring up the Madame and then click on the Photo Tab.I hope I've given you enough information about my Madame so that you can make a better better comparison. I know that she (the Madame) will always have a home in my garden.In closing--- I can only say that your photo looks very similar to my Madame and numerous photos that I've seen of 'Madame Caroline Testout'.Have a Happy New Year,Bill
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Thank you for your response. I do agree that photos are a hard way to identify roses. One only has to look at the variations of form and color in the HMF files. Unfortunately my "MCT" has been long neglected and now comprises a single cane of which the two flowers you saw were the sole blooms. It was very hot in Seattle when they were open and they lasted two days. When I touched them all the petals fell off at one time. My plan is to take cuttings and move this rose to a happier spot. Currently she is being overrun by Belle de Crecy and Golden Wings! I inherited a garden with perhaps 60 old ramblers and shrub roses. It has been fun identifying them and trying to restore the garden. Thanks for your help and all the best in 2007. Rick smoot.
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Rick, If your 'Madame Caroline Testout' is in decline as you indicated, you may want to get your hands on a new band or a one gallon potted Madame or even a #1 bare-root rose. The band will be up and growing long before your cutting takes hold-- that is if your successful and the cutting takes hold. Its just a thought. I truly hope your successful with your cuttings. Bill
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Bill, I have often wondered about the wisdom of trying to resucitate a flagging rose, especially ones as relitively old as the ones in my garden. (10 to 15 years). We are truly living in the golden age of accessibility to antique or heritage roses. I will not mention how much money I have spent on new "old" roses that I couldn't live without. Thank you for your advice. Rick
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Stratorick: Maybe by now you have identified your photo, HMF # 60395, submitted on 12/31/'06 (a year ago tomorrow). It does look something like MCT, but also like the photo of Columbia, Cl. on the Everyrose website. Mike, Michigan.
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I am trying to identify a rose I inherited at my garden. The original gardener says it's "yesterday" but I think it's more like "blue mist". I have (hopefully) enclosed a photo for your consideration.
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19 NOV 06 by
Cass
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Photo ID is a tricky business, but if blind voting counts, I agree that your plant looks more like 'Blue Mist' from the pictures posted on HMF. I grow 'Yesterday.' During the spring flush, the blooms are held aloft quite a bit higher than your shot reveals. I've never see the color that light, although color is generally very saturated in my cool climate.
Take a look at the leaf margins on the several photos posted on HMF. 'Yesterday' has less pronounced serration. It also tiny but distinct fringed stipules. I don't know the parentage of 'Blue Mist,' so it's possible you might see fringed stipules there, too. If you check your plant for prickles and stipules, I can compare your findings to my 'Yesterday.'
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15 OCT 07 by
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Look's like Lavender Dream to me.
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I have read that 'Nevada' can be a difficult rose to grow. I live in Shoreline Wa. Zone 8B. Does anyone have tips for growing this rose?
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4 JAN 07 by
 Cass
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I've never read this. Is your plant own root? I wonder if rootstock incompatability might be a factor. In any event, it is grown all over Europe budded to canina or Laxa rootstock, and it is a luscious thing. I have just bought a very small rooted cutting and expect great things. What problems, exactly, have you heard about?
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In Carolyn Parker's book "R Is for rose" She mentions that she had it for three years and moved it around until she found the right spot. Just by-the-by, for a "coffee table" book it's not bad. There are gorgeous pictures of not only Nevada but Austrian Copper and many others. The book can be had pretty inexpensively on an unnamed online ordering company. My Nevada band will be on it's own roots. Do you think the budded plant would perform better? I had a beautiful plant of Celestial that was budded and it was overtaken by the canina stock so I'm leary of budded plants. My garden is large with well over 60 rose plants so watching for rootstock invasion is a little tedious. I have also pre-ordered Nevada in a gallon sz. in case the band is too slow. Thanks for your reply. Rick
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4 JAN 07 by
Cass
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Rick, I detest budded plants, so I'm willing to try to grow out Nevada OR. I have to admit that I don't see it in gardens where I'd expect to, which might indicate something about being weak on its own roots. I bought both Nevada and the pink sport, Marguerite Hilling, after I saw them at La Roseraie du Val-du-Marne a l'Hay-Les-Roses. Spectacular!
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Wow, I just checked out Marguerite Hilling. Looks like another must have. What a beautiful rose. Thanks for the heads-up. How amazing that this is a sport of Nevada.
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Many years ago I saw Meg in full flower trained along a split rail fence and it was breathtaking! Very healthy foliage, covered in blossoms. This treasure deserves to be available and widely grown. Does anyone have more photos to share?
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