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21 NOV 17 by
 pminor
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love your garden!!! I see that you grow belle sans flatterie I have been searching for a source for this rose Can you advise me where you purchased yours?
Thanks!!
Pat
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#1 of 4 posted
21 NOV 17 by
Catsrose
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I got mine from Vintage Gardens, now defunct. It suckers wildly, so I'd be happy to send you cuttings.
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#2 of 4 posted
22 NOV 17 by
pminor
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That would be so cool! I am happy to reimburse postage.
Sounds like i could get some rooted material, makes it easier.
Thanks!!!
Pat minor
32 celeste ct
Novato ca 94947
I am so happy to find this rose!!
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#3 of 4 posted
22 NOV 17 by
Catsrose
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I assume you have already tried Friends of Vintage Gardens in Sebastopol and the Bay Area Heritage Rose Society. I'm in Virginia, but I'll be happy to send you some.
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#4 of 4 posted
22 NOV 17 by
pminor
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Vintage gardens is no longer in business of sales though friends of vintage gardens has preserved the collection. I have joined and get newsletter. But retail operations closed.
I am so grateful.
Thanks
Pat
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1 MAY 08 by
Unregistered Guest
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There are two roses in commerce that go by the name Excellenz von Schubert: a non-fragrant Polyantha (P) and a fragrant Hybrid Musk (HM). The former is smaller and more shrub-like in growth habit. The later has longer, gracefully arching canes characteristic of the HM class.
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#1 of 4 posted
2 MAY 08 by
jedmar
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I believe the non-fragrant Polyantha is the real 'Excellenz', as early references do not mention any fragrance. But what is the Musk?
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#2 of 4 posted
2 MAY 08 by
Cass
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It is possible that the non-fragrant polyantha is the true 'Excellenz von Schubert', but in the USA, I think that some nurseries have been selling the wonderful 'Gartendirecktor Otto Linne' under the name 'Excellenz von Schubert.'
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#3 of 4 posted
29 APR 10 by
Catsrose
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Vintage Gardens lists the fragrant, HM, more purple than pink version as EVS. Until someone can disprove it, I think we should accept their version as the standard.
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Does the non-fragrant polyantha set hips? I note that no descendants are listed for EvS. George Thomson is using EvS for breeding, and I'm wondering which version we have in Oz.
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