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Initial post 3 days ago by odinthor
It is most trying that one cannot track down the colored plate of 'Miss Ethel Brownlow' featured in the July 1893 issue of the Gardeners Magazine, nor indeed a copy of that issue with or without the plate. Does anyone have access to the holdings of the Royal Horticultural Society, which evidently does have the (full?) run of the Gardeners Magazine (which was edited by Shirley Hibberd, should that be of interest)? Or, short of that, does anyone have an "in" with the RHS such that they could wheedle a Society librarian into scanning the plate for the good of humanity?
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Initial post 8 days ago by odinthor
It turns out that the correct spelling is "Brant-Hentz." Misspelling "Brandt-Hentz" appears to have originated in the pages of the ARS Annual of 1922, p. 168. The company itself was no longer in business by that time: "The Noe & Ruzicka Co. Inc. Incorporators, L. A. Noe, Jos. F. Ruzicka. Capital $ 75,000 . The above firm purchased the plant of the Brant-Hentz Floral Co. and after some changes will continue to grow roses. Mr. Brant is leaving Madison to devote his time to the extensive plant of Brant Bros. at Utica, N.Y." (from periodical Horticulture, vol. 24, 1916, p. 686).

Originally Brant and Hentz were neighbors. Here's some background from 1903, filling in some data relevant to the above quote from 1916: "One of the oldtime places still produces roses of the first class. This is the old Slaughter place, now leased by Elwood Brant. There are some seventeen houses here,accommodeating about 30,000 plants. [American] Beauties are the chief crop grown, with teas along the front benches. Two houses of Liberty and one of Meteor are also grown. The houses are antiquated compared with the modern standard, but the stock looks very good indeed and reflects great credit on Mr. Brant. He is a shrewd young man who is forging ahead and is part lessee with his brother of the immense rose houses of Peter Crowe, of Utica, N.Y. Most of the largest growers here [Madison, N.J.] live, as Mr. Dooley would say, 'beyont the thracks,' or above the railroad. Just a stone's throw from Mr. Brant is the handsome range of Henry Hentz, Jr. It is a modern plant, complete in every particular, and is of the most enduring construction. Beauties are chiefly grown. [...] Mr. Hentz is a partner of the firm of Moore, Hentz & Nash, which is the donor of the special medals offered at the show every year by the local horticultural society. [...] Not far from the last named establishments are the plants of Louis M. and Louis A. Noe, father and son respectively, the Beauty kings of Madison. Each has some nineteen or twenty houses 200 feet long and the stock can only be described as splendid." From Florists' Review, vol. 12, 1903, pp. 752-753.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 8 days ago by Patricia Routley
Brandt-Hentz corrected to Brant-Hentz. Thank you.
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Initial post 8 days ago by odinthor
"The last entry [to the Panama-California Rose Contest at Balboa Park, San Diego] came somewhat belated from Madison, New Jersey, from the Brant-Hentz Flower Co., with the explanation that a temperature of 25 below had made an earlier shipment impossible. Among these last plants was the original rose bush which has been the mother of over 5,000 others." From periodical California Garden, vol. 3, 1912, p. 7. This "original rose bush" can only have been that of 'Madison'; Brant-Hentz had no other roses original with them, certainly none which were called upon to provide "over 5,000 others."
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 8 days ago by Patricia Routley
Reference added.Thank you.
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Initial post 16 APR 18 by HubertG
The breeder's description gives the parentage as 'Alba rosea x Sylphide'.
From page 76 of the 1891 Rosen-Zeitung.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 19 APR 18 by Patricia Routley
That's different. Reference added.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 19 APR 18 by HubertG
Here's the full description from the same source:

"Neuste Rosen für 1892 (Beschreibungen der Züchter)

Züchter: Soupert & Notting - Luxemburg ...

5. Léon XIII. Strauch kräftig, hellgrüne Belaubung; Blume gross, gefüllt, in Büscheln blühend, 5 bis 6 Blumen auf jedem Zweige, schalenförmig; Farbe glänzend porzellanweiss, sehr zart gelb nuanciert im Zentrum. Varietät extra. (Alba rosea x Sylphide.)"

My translation:

Newest roses for 1892 (descriptions of the breeders)

Breeder: Soupert & Notting - Luxembourg

5. Léon XIII. Bush vigourous, light green foliage; Flower large, double, blooming in clusters, 5 to 6 flowers on each shoot, shallowly cupped; Colour lustrous porcelain white, nuanced with very delicate yellow in the centre. Exceptional variety. (Alba rosea x Sylphide.)

[Of the other four roses from Soupert & Notting described, three also have their parentages given.]
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 19 APR 18 by Patricia Routley
Thank you HubertG
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 10 days ago by odinthor
It's hard to tell what's going on with the parentage. In 1892, the Journal of Roses, giving "the descriptions of them copying verbatim [*textuellement*] the prospectus addressed to us, leaving all responsibility to the breeders" (the implication being that the prospectus was from the breeder), gives the parentage as 'Anna Olivier' x 'Earl of Eldon'. (Journal of Roses, 1892, p. 138 (for the "textuellement" comment) and p. 139 (for the variety's description)). I note that, the same year, Tea 'Léonie Osterrieth', also from S&N, has parentage 'La Sylphide' x 'Alba Rosea'. Maybe it's worth noting that Soupert & Notting, in listing their own varieties, would have 'Léon XIII' and 'Léonie Osterrieth' adjacent; the eye could easily skip. In his 1893 catalog, Lambert repeats the Olivier/Eldon parentage, and doesn't change/correct it in 1894.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 10 days ago by Lee H.
Just FYI, the same parentage is repeated in the 1894 Journal.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 9 days ago by odinthor
Thanks--much appreciated!
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