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Is this rose shade tolerant? I have a position with 4 hours of sun a day, and the rest of the day with filtered sun. Thanks.
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#1 of 6 posted
22 MAR 10 by
MaryG
Hi Charlene,
I checked three different rose books that go to some trouble to try to identify those roses that can do reasonably well in shade. None of them mention 'Crépuscule' for any degree of shade tolerance, and one book, the Peter Beales' "Classic Roses" book, specifically recommends that you be put it into full sun.
There are plenty of roses that Peter Beales doesn't mention any sun/shade information on; he singled this one out for needing sun to do its best. So perhaps Peter knows of some very unsuccessful attempts to grow the rose in partial shade? The books do list some noisettes that can succeed with some shade, but apparently this rose just isn't one of them. Sorry.
Best wishes, Mary
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Just a note ... full sun in England is very different than full sun in Texas or even parts of California. It's likely the rose will "reach for the sun", but I have found that many roses said to require full sun by authors from England fry to a crisp in the mountains of northern California unless they have some shade or filtered sunlight.
Smiles, Lyn
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How true. I live a half an hour from the beach, but most of my roses appreciate a little shade at some point in the day. The ideal spot here faces east, towards the morning sun, then gets shade in the afternoon hours.
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Here's a photo of Crepuscule in a previous garden of mine. In a 3m wide corridor between the (one-story) house and a colourbond fence, facing east, and subject to howling salt-laden winds at times. Zone 9b, summers hot to very hot.
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Mine grows in similar conditions and blooms well. I live in the Bay Area, Ca.
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My own thrives in those same conditions. The San Francisco Bay Area is where I make my home.
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Can anyone tell me about the disease resistance of this rose? It will have to endure partial shade and I've been told by some nurserys that it would be fine. The second question is would this work for a pillar? Thanks for your help.
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You can look up "hybrid musks" in our GLOSSARY and find out more about this class of roses.
Smiles, Lyn
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#2 of 6 posted
12 SEP 08 by
Carlene
I have mine growing in mostly shade in a pot - absolutely no disease. Drought tolerant in a pot. Blooms more of course when it gets sufficient water. Tough little rose.
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#4 of 6 posted
13 SEP 08 by
jedmar
Ours has lost almost all foliage to blackspot!
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It will mildew a bit when conditions are at their worst.
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#5 of 6 posted
20 APR 18 by
Gdisaz10
Blackspot in the summer in my hot , humid climate.
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#6 of 6 posted
20 APR 19 by
johnm99
In Victoria BC (now zone 8b - cool summer, temperate winter) I find this to be astonishingly healthy. I have a large specimen that I planted over 20 years ago. Deer invaded our neighbourhood after that, and ate all the bottom 3 - 4 feet off it, but it continued to grow upward , curling around a telephone pole, forming a large ball maybe 8' wide from about 5 ' to 12 ' above the ground. It gets almost no disease, and is nearly evergreen. Flowers from May to November.... scent has been described as strong, but I would say it is actually "moderately strong" - but very nice.
Of the 40 or so roses I had in our front garden, the deer killed most of them - leaving only Felicia, Cl. The Fairy and New Dawn - all because they could grow up and escape the deer. Felicia brings me a great deal of pleasure.
That being said, I have seen it encumbered with blackspot in other locations, but not devastatingly so - more annoying than harmful to the overall plant health.
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Does anyone know how wide Puerto Rico tea rose gets? Thanks.
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9 JUN 11 by
Dave
Puerto Rico gets about 3' wide.
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This is the best yellow rose I have. In the hot, humid Houston area, Gold Medal suffered dieback and eventually got shovel-pruned. New Day - died. Climbing Gold Badge - only blooms well in the spring, as well as Graham Thomas. Winter Sunset only bloomed in the spring. Yellow Maman Cochet and Rosette Delizy is blooming pretty good. The only other dependable yellow rose in the heat of the summer is Buff Beauty. It just keeps blooming when most of the other roses have taken a time-out due to the heat. I plan on buying more of her. Buff Beauty makes a good cut flower and the scent is wonderful. Her foliage is beautiful and the way her canes gracefully arch under the weight of the blooms is lovely.
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May 2011, if you are looking for a tough Yeller Climber, try ~ ROYAL GOLD ~. It can take the heat and the roses are heavily scented here in Silicon Valley. It throws out monster canes that in this area need to be cut back; this climber reached 17 ft in its 3rd year! I rate it almost as prolific in cane output, as the red climber, SYMPATHIE.
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