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Henrique R. Vivián
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Initial post 12 MAY 06 by Unregistered Guest

Hi, How does your Colette grow? Vigorous? Lots of flowers? How often is the repeat? Is it Leggy? Would it bloom in lots of humidity in july and august? thanks so have a fabulous rose list! terry
Reply #1 of 11 posted 15 MAY 06 by Kim Rupert

I've only been exposed to three plants of this rose, and all three were in one garden along the coast here in Southern California, where there is little difference between summer and winter temperatures (compared to those inland) and there is fairly constant humidity. Based upon how those three plants performed, I never wanted to grow it anywhere else. The petals were too soft to deal with the humidity, losing color and balling terribly in one day. There wasn't much fragrance (likely due to the conditions being too damp and cool), but what there was, deteriorated into a foul smelling glob of sogginess. The year they were in the garden, there was constant mildew with bursts of black spot and rust. Yes, I know climbers require up to three years to come into their own and develop into decent plants. All three of these were planted as fifteen gallon plants, with between seven and eight feet of growth on them, so they were fairly mature specimen. PERHAPS, they may have improved with time, but neither the home owner nor I was willing to put up with how disappointing this rose was in that location.

It's not the same color, but acceptable for this installation, and it's not as double, therefore not the same look as his wife originally wanted, but the three Collette were replaced with three Spice so Nice, which have been phenomenal! They're constantly in bloom; have good fragrance and are bullet proof in this location, with absolutely no disease, even though no cultural practices used on the Collettes were changed for Spice so Nice. The difference between the two roses performances are due entirely to the superior characteristics and suitability of Spice so Nice for these conditions.

Reply #5 of 11 posted 3 JAN 13 by rose dabbler
Hi Kim,

What a coincidence...I was abbout to buy Colette to plant near my own Spice so Nice! As you know, the Spice So Nice has a much bolder coloration, and it IS healthy and beautiful and now around 18 feet tall (therefore I cannot bear ro get rid of it) but the orange tones in newly opened spice are stronger than I thought they would be when I planted it. (I love the softer two-day-old blooms.) I have an 1890's cottage, and love the old rose look...but with just a BIT more punch. I also have The Impressionist nearby. I thought the warm peachy pink of Colette between the two orange/gold/apricot climbers might bring some old-fashioned pink softness without clashing or contrasting too much. Can you think of another large bush/short climber similar in color and form to Colette that i might use that would do well in high humidity? I live in Western Maryland and the rose would be in a full-sun, south-facing, protected spot. I would be happy to e-mail you a photo (tried to upload photos to helpmefind but for some reason had trouble doing so.) THANK YOU!
Reply #6 of 11 posted 3 JAN 13 by Kim Rupert
Hi Cynthia, Colette may or may not do well where you are. I don't know how much of the issues here along the coast were humidity related and how much was the lack of heat. In Malibu where they grew, "hot" was high seventies, low eighties. What's "hot" where you are? Black spot resistance is something I can't comment on because they've identified FIVE strains of black spot across the US. The "brand" I have is likely not the same one you have so what remains clean here may collapse under that pressure for you.

You might look at something like Westerland or Autumn Sunset. Not as double, but durable in most places and in similar coloring with great scent. They can be grown as shrubs or, left lightly to unpruned, develop into shorter climbers. Garden Sun might also be something which might be suitable. Conard Pyle, its introducer, states it has good disease resistance and cold hardiness.

I am leaning more toward the recent introductions rather than OGRs because they are easily available budded, so you'll have a leg up on growth and they may be more disease resistant and cold hardy in your climate. I hope it helps! Good luck.
Reply #10 of 11 posted 28 DEC 19 by Kim Rupert
Hi Rosedabbler. A recent response to this comment just brought me back to read it. What did you select to go with your Spice So Nice? I hope all is good with you and yours. Happy New Year!
Reply #7 of 11 posted 31 MAR 16 by LaurelZ
When you replace any rose it get less fungal the first year. The real test would be how does Spice So Nice preform long term? Spice So Nice is a completely different color and not as pretty as Colette. And my Colette does great in San Francisco. In fact, it has much less fungal then any other of my roses in San Francisco. I do spray, but still Colette was the best performer. All of them were sprayed, but only Colette looks completely clean in the leaves with no signs of rust, black spot or powdery mildew.
Reply #2 of 11 posted 28 MAR 07 by eve
I've got two Colette and the places they are planted at are very different in soil quality. The better the better! The one's planted in a deeper soil is much more vigorous than the other.Still; even the one planted in the poor soil is a beautiful bush of 5 feet heights. Its secon flush is less generous than the firts, yet... Its a robust beautiful rose with very charming, delicate colour. I am glad t ohave her in my garden, even though I prefer old roses, she has practically all those qualities..Grettings, Eve
Reply #3 of 11 posted 5 MAR 08 by Unregistered Guest
mine is about 4yrs and it rarely bloom. I planted on the other side of the rose arbor, it recieved plenty of water and sunshine, but I thinks I only see it bloom once. I wonder what I have done wrong?
Reply #4 of 11 posted 5 MAR 08 by Henrique R. Vivián
I'm glad you are going well.
Reply #8 of 11 posted 2 JUN 17 by buckeyesouth
Very disappointed in this rose. It wilts quickly in the heat and also dislikes humidity. A so-so in terms of vigor. It has managed to survive and bloom regularly, but requires perfect weather to make a display.
Reply #9 of 11 posted 28 DEC 19 by JuniperAnn
I’m not loving her either. She’s the first of my roses to bloom, but also the first to shut down in the heat, and she didn’t really give a fall flush this year either. I’m giving her one more year to show improvement.
Reply #11 of 11 posted 30 DEC 19 by LaurelZ
It’s the clay soil. If you are not willing to admend clay it’s not going to work out. I moved mine to my new house, but I removed huge amounts of dead clay soil and added good quality soil. Collette creates one or two good flushes a year, and rests in between. It’s not a hybrid tea.
most recent 17 OCT 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 15 OCT 18 by Henrique R. Vivián
"Carmencita" it seems to be SIMSALABIM !!!
Reply #1 of 1 posted 17 OCT 18 by carmenbcdc
Hola Henrique, cuánto me alegro de verte por aquí!!!
Creo que sí es esa rosa que me dices, Simsalabin, muchas gracias. Es como un rosal de patio, perfumada y las rosas duran mucho en la planta y en un jarrón.
most recent 2 APR 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 31 MAR 17 by Jay-Jay
Wonderful, Mr. Rodriguez. Hope that this rose will perform in my garden too.
Bought it this year from John and Becky Hook of Roseraie du Désert.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 2 APR 17 by Henrique R. Vivián
Helo Jay-Jay. Thank you for your comment. Hope your "Belle Portugaise" be happy in your Garden. I'm sure there are no problems in Netherlands climate. Have been several times in Holand when mi daughter was studying , dancing and teaching ballet , a large time of my life !!! Now in Portugal with his dance school. If you want know about ,you can see "EDAK" (ESCOLA DE DANÇA ANA KOHLER).
A big hug.
most recent 24 JAN 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 24 JAN 17 by Carolmarie
Reply #1 of 1 posted 24 JAN 17 by Henrique R. Vivián
Thanks !!!
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