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What is zone 3 thru 9? How do I grow a snow pavement rose shurb?
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5 JUN 04 by
Anonymous-27042
Zones 3 to 9 refers to hardiness zones used in the USA and Canada. The zones listed for this rose means that it can live in climates where the yearly average MINIMUM temperature ranges from -30 to -40 degrees Fahrenheit up to 20 to 30 degrees Fahrenheit. Our summers get into the 90's (Fahrenheit!) with lots of humidity, which doesn't bother the rose.
This is a very tough and easy to grow rose. It gets to be a nice thick rounded shape and hardly needs pruning. You can plant it as for any rose - enriched soil in a deep hole will make it happy. (I started with a two foot wide by two foot deep hole with compost and peat moss added to it.) It sounds up shoots from underground, so you can either let it spread, or dig the shoots up to give to friends. The buds are pink, and the flowers open a very cool smooth pale lavender, with a sweet spicy smell. It didn't lose a twig during an extrremely cold winter this year.
Hope this helps.
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#2 of 2 posted
4 FEB 17 by
Chris
wish i knew the lineage on this one,,,,
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25 FEB 04 by
Anonymous-797
Can this rose grow in zone 4? Are there two different kinds of this rose... a climber and a bush?
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This rose is classified as a Boubon climber but it does take time to finally climb. It can also be kept as a large shrub by just pruning it back hard in the spring. Also it can be grown in semi shade but you won't get as many blooms. It is also prone to black spot which shade tends to increase. Zone 4 is too cold for this rose as zone 6 is about it's limit.
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25 FEB 04 by
Unregistered Guest
My Wayside Garden catalog lists it as a zone 5-9 climber. Most references say 8-12' tall. Some may grow it as a bush by cutting it back severly. I'd say you'd be pushing your luck growing it in zone 4, but if you can find the right spot for it, like a protected, warm, south facing wall, and mulch heavily to get it thru the winter it might be worth trying. I just planted one a few weeks ago, but I'm a zone 5-6. There are some rugosa hybrid climbers that are zone 3 that you may find suitable.
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I have been growing this rose in the semi-shade for the last three years...seems to be doing alright. i suppose it would do better in the sun, but that is not an option for me at the moment. i am in a zone 5 (in canada)
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#4 of 8 posted
7 NOV 03 by
Unregistered Guest
You may wish to look at Douglas Green's book "Tender Roses for Tough Climates". He grows roses in Ontario in Zone 4 using a simple method he's developed. I notice that Zephirine Drouhin is mentioned in the index. Good luck!
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#5 of 8 posted
23 APR 04 by
Amy
I have three Zephirine Drouhin that made it unscathed through our winter with many -20 F days.
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check rogers roses site.he details that information.
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#7 of 8 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
This is a zone 6 rose at best. It's great but it has a tendency to get fungus in humid climates... one of it's attributes is that it is nearly thornless... If you do a rose search within Find My Rose it lists the hardiness zone of any rose that you are searching...
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#8 of 8 posted
6 MAR 10 by
kev
yes you can grow it. based in my plants i would say it is more of a shrub rose. it does repeat.
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25 APR 05 by
Amy
Hi - Can someone tell me if Tamora is thorny? I am considering planting it at the end of a fence where neighbors sometimes squeeze past for visits. Also, I live in the Boston area and wonder if Tamora is hardy. Thanks.
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This is what I found in The American Rose Society Encyclopedia - 'The plant has fairly prickly, slender stems...' This is from Clair G. Martin book '100 English Roses for the American Garden' - 'Canes are cloaked with red-bronze stiletto-like prickles.' One of these books says 'Hardy in zone 6'
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25 APR 05 by
Amy
Thank you Marina!
Amy
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Tamora will set new standards for intensity and severity of prickles! Yes, this is one of the worst of the newer roses for its prickles. I've never pruned it, nor tried to cut flowers without spending time either digging them out of my arms and hands, or trying to stop the bleeding!
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#4 of 9 posted
23 JUN 06 by
Lizzie
I agree 100% with K.R. Plant with extreme caution!
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#5 of 9 posted
23 JUN 06 by
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I think I'll skip it. Thanks for the information! Amy
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#6 of 9 posted
23 JUN 06 by
Anonymous-97434
Amy, while Tamora is intensely prickly, it is also one of the most willing and beautiful of the Austin roses. There is that intense fragrance; gorgeous flowers; heavy, reliable repeat bloom. I honestly believe, despite its imperfections, Tamora will go down in history as one of his best.
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#7 of 9 posted
23 JUN 06 by
Unregistered Guest
That's appealling. Maybe I can find a place to plant it that isn't right next to foot traffic. Thanks.
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#8 of 9 posted
13 AUG 06 by
aurelia
I list Tamora's thorns as "deadly." If she were any larger, she would be a hazzard. Fantastic rose though, do get it.
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I agree she's wicked..but oh the color of the blooms...I liked her so much I bought a second this year she stays very small so i don't worry about getting stuck unless I have to prune a cane from winter die out...I highy suggest you grow this little rose,you'll love her and yes she will probably go down in history...:-) she's one of my favorite Austin's
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25 FEB 04 by
Anonymous-797
I live in probably Zone 4 (North of Toronto) and I am looking for a good yellow rose. Is Graham Thomas a good bet? I am new to rose growing, and would like to start with easy, hardy, and disease-resistant varieties.
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23 APR 04 by
Amy
I live in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where we had an unusually cold winter this year - for days on end we had temperatures of -20 F. I thought my Graham Thomas had died, but found some new growth starting just above ground level. It is planted on the north side of the house where it does not get much protection from wind. Hope this helps.
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