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25 FEB 04 by
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I am looking for a rose I remember from my Mother's house in the 70s. It had profuse clisters of small double blooms, in red. She called in Lady Banksia. As far as I know, Lady Banksia only comes in white or yellow. However, someone told me that Dortmund rose used to be referred to as 'red Lady Banks'. I looked at DOrtmund, and it looks kind of close, except the blooms aren't double. Is there a double form of this? Or do you have any other ideas as to what this rose might be - tall shrub form, lots of clusters of small double red blooms. Small med - dark green foliage. Please help! Thanks.
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#1 of 5 posted
25 FEB 04 by
Unregistered Guest
Hi Tracy, just a guess but if the rose was from the 70's it could be 'Improved Blaze'. It was offered by the tens of thousands about that time. One does'nt see it that much anymore. There are no double forms of 'Dortmund' that I know of and I've never heard it called "Red Lady Banks". Thare are lots and lots of tall growing roses with red clustered flowers. Your rose could also be 'Paul's Scarlet'. Good luck in your search.. Robert
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#2 of 5 posted
18 DEC 08 by
MLB
Take a look at the rose rambler, Chevy Chase!
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if it flowered all the time it would be clg red cascade otherwise it would be most like red excelsa.both can be grown as weeping standards or as climbers and shrubs
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#4 of 5 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
It could be Eutin which is a floribunda but it gets no more that 3 ft tall. It could also be Europeana which has small red clusters.
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#5 of 5 posted
31 MAR 10 by
kev
the rose i believe you are refering to is catherine banks.It is a very small red clg rose.
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25 FEB 04 by
Anonymous-797
Can this rose grow in zone 4? Are there two different kinds of this rose... a climber and a bush?
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This rose is classified as a Boubon climber but it does take time to finally climb. It can also be kept as a large shrub by just pruning it back hard in the spring. Also it can be grown in semi shade but you won't get as many blooms. It is also prone to black spot which shade tends to increase. Zone 4 is too cold for this rose as zone 6 is about it's limit.
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#2 of 8 posted
25 FEB 04 by
Unregistered Guest
My Wayside Garden catalog lists it as a zone 5-9 climber. Most references say 8-12' tall. Some may grow it as a bush by cutting it back severly. I'd say you'd be pushing your luck growing it in zone 4, but if you can find the right spot for it, like a protected, warm, south facing wall, and mulch heavily to get it thru the winter it might be worth trying. I just planted one a few weeks ago, but I'm a zone 5-6. There are some rugosa hybrid climbers that are zone 3 that you may find suitable.
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I have been growing this rose in the semi-shade for the last three years...seems to be doing alright. i suppose it would do better in the sun, but that is not an option for me at the moment. i am in a zone 5 (in canada)
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#4 of 8 posted
7 NOV 03 by
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You may wish to look at Douglas Green's book "Tender Roses for Tough Climates". He grows roses in Ontario in Zone 4 using a simple method he's developed. I notice that Zephirine Drouhin is mentioned in the index. Good luck!
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#5 of 8 posted
23 APR 04 by
Amy
I have three Zephirine Drouhin that made it unscathed through our winter with many -20 F days.
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check rogers roses site.he details that information.
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#7 of 8 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
This is a zone 6 rose at best. It's great but it has a tendency to get fungus in humid climates... one of it's attributes is that it is nearly thornless... If you do a rose search within Find My Rose it lists the hardiness zone of any rose that you are searching...
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#8 of 8 posted
6 MAR 10 by
kev
yes you can grow it. based in my plants i would say it is more of a shrub rose. it does repeat.
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Great article. Thanks for the baking soda/vinegar tip.
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#1 of 11 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
Thanks, sorry I am late in being gracious... the spray works if you catch it before it takes hold.. otherwise you have to let it drop it's leaves and leaf out again... bummer!
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It's ok....time does indeed fly....have a great day......
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#3 of 11 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
What are some of your favorite roses you grow in NC. It's humid there right? What roses perform best and what are your favorite amendments?
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Some of my favorite roses are:
Old Blush,Butterfly rose, Old Rosemary (rugosa),Blanc Double, The Fairy Knock Out roses (red, yellow & pink), Westerland, Jude the Obsure, New Dawn etc.
I use for fertilizer alfha (?) meal, bonemeal, epsom salts and cow manure.
What are your favorite roses? Fertilizer?
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#5 of 11 posted
31 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
I love New Dawn... just planted it last year from a dumpster and it is loaded with buds... I am a zone 5 borderline 4b and I had Old Blush for 2 years and then it bit the dust (rescued it from WalMart and I ask them at that time why they were selling it HERE) ... the China's are not cold hardy but I love Old Blush. I love all the Rugosa's - Hansa (started from a cutting), Blanc Double de Coubert (2 of those) Rugosa Magnifica (similar to Hansa but more double), Wild Spice -(single white clove frag) a zone 6 Rugosa but it's doing great here, so far, Sir Thomas Lipton, FJ Grootendorst, Martin Frobisher, Therese Bugnet, gosh should I stop... I can't... Lovely Fairy (WOW, it's Killer hot pink) The Red Fairy, Old Pink Moss and Old Pink Damask that were rescued from abandon farm sites. This year I purchased Darlow's Enigma, Marie Bugnet and Belle Povintene from High Country Roses, my favorite online nursery. Actually that's not all of my roses.. I think I have close to 50, last count... I use basically the same ammendments that you do... OH... Who is Old Rosemary and what zone? I have never heard of HER? Is that a nickname or is that HER real name? Love to hear more about that one... Susan Verrier of North Creek Farm in Phippsburg Maine is an author on Rugosas and a nursery owner... She has a website... please, tell me all about Old Rosemary....
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Old Blush does great here in the coastal south zone 8a/8b Old Rosemary is the nickname name of Roseraie De L Hay. One year in the ground and has suckered already! I forgot to mentioned I add compost to my mixture. I also have some carefree roses...sunshine..wonder..delight. My sunshine was loaded with blooms and ready to bloom again. Wonder has a pretty shape but no scent. I have the pink & white Fairy and on order the red Fairy.I've seen North Creek Farm's website but didn'tknow she wrote a book. I haeard I have to be careful of some rugosas because of the hot humid conditions here. I have some noisettes in pots to be planted this fall.
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#7 of 11 posted
31 MAY 09 by
Cass
Old Rosemary=Roseraie de l'Hay? I love rose nicknames. I especially like Juan Desprez and can't call it anything else now.
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#9 of 11 posted
31 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
Actually, I love those nicknames also! You know in different parts of the country, the nicknames can be different for the same plants... It's almost as if the names were passed down from generation to generation!
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#8 of 11 posted
31 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
I am glad to know Old Rosemary's name because I have actually wanted that rose for a long time. Suzanne Verrier wrote Rosa Rugosa and was published by Firefly in 1999. The book was a gift and how I found out about Susan. I have several books or rose history, which is as intriguing to me as the plant. Of course I have two by Graham Stuart Thomas and my favorite is Cuttings from my Garden. Thomas talks about Nancy Lindsay a cigarette smoking rose treker who rescued roses in Iran and other parts of the world. Another favorite by a Texas author Thomas Christopher is In Search of Lost Roses. They are not boring reads... they are fabulous... Christopher is a hoot! PS, I like compost too but have more of a tendency to build from the top. It seems that if you mix compost with the type of soil I have it creates a pot that won't drain in areas. I had the problem with the black gumbo in Texas so I learned to build from the top by each year adding another layer. Although Susan V. says that's how she ammends her rose holes and she has clay. According to Susan, she notes in her book where humidity can cause cancker. The problem here in the Midwest for roses is we are having a bout with Rose Mosaic. At one time the govenment was going to introduce the disease to kill all the naturalized multi-floras but the concern was that it would spread to the other roses. I don't think they cared and did it anyway. I have lost two but the way I look at it is only the strong survive and you build strength with organic ammendments. OMG-You have to get Lovely Fairy to add to your Fairy collection. She makes Knock Out look like a wallflower.
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Yes, with amendments each area different. When my red fairy rose arrives I will plant it in a pot until the fall. Our weather here is already 90 degrees. Too hot for for early June for us. Does the red fairy reblooom as often as the Knock Outs?
TY for the book titles list. I'll check on those books later.
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#11 of 11 posted
1 JUN 09 by
Mylissa
It's usually hot here by now but we have had an exceptionally cool spring with nights being in the lower 50s and 70s by daytime and RAIN! This weekend was really the first heat we've had... it was 85 and humid. Rain coming again tonight and tomorrow. The Red Fairy is quite the bloomer and mine is loaded with buds. Will probably pop this week. This is her third year. Of course with any plant adequate food and moisture is the key. I grow roses in pots also and then plant in the fall. It was a great morning here. My grandaughter and I meandered the property and she had a handful of roses when we got back to the house. With all the rain we've had the roses are really showing off. Yes, time to catch up on reading in the dead of winter or when it's so hot you can't breathe... I will be presenting an article to publish on this web soon. It's an essay and taken from a series of columns that I wrote for the county newspaper a few years ago. It's not a "how to" but a "why" if that makes any sense. I haven't submitted anything since 05 so I thought it was time. Stay cool!
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18 FEB 07 by
Unregistered Guest
Give it a kiss and walk away?
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#1 of 5 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
Yes, so to speak... it's another way of saying I am giving you the basics and a good start so now it's your turn to be beautiful and perform.
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#2 of 5 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Unregistered Guest
I remember posting that in 2007... it was just a tease... how are you, Mylissa? I still publish little newspapers in McKinney, it's interesting you responded NOW, 'cause I'm thinking of giving that up, it's changed so much here.
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#3 of 5 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
Could it be none other than JS?
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#4 of 5 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
How has it changed?
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#5 of 5 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Unregistered Guest
Yes, it's JS. Thousands more people living here, massive development on the west side of town. In 1995 the downtown was barely occupied, many buildings had gone unused for years and weren't up to code. Now the entire downtown has been renovated, very expensive to rent.
Started as McKinney Herald in 1994, I changed the name in 2000... It's just a art-project now, although I sill throw thousands of copies the old-fashioned way. There are screen shots of my front pages here...
http://collinmckinneytexas.blogspot.com/
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