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Your rose garden sounds like heaven on earth. In your garden, do you still have Red Talisman CL ? If so, could you post additional photos of the entire plant?
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Hi there. I don't have a great photo of Cl. Red Talisman. My plant is about twenty years old but it is crowded between two big climbers. It's a tough rose. It blooms twice a year. Mine only has one big cane but every year there is new growth from that cane. It makes large hips, which should be pruned to stimulate more growth and bloom.
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#2 of 5 posted
12 OCT 23 by
 caduceus
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Hello again,
I am a rose lover who is still unable to find Red Talisman Cl. anywhere to purchase. It seems to be dying off in places where it used to thrive and is now in danger of extinction. I have been working with various vintage rose curators in California and they have come to the same conclusion.
Would you be willing to help to preserve this rose's beauty and fragrance and very existence by sharing cuttings from your Red Talisman Cl? I would gladly pay you for these cuttings. I just need the unrooted plant material, as I can manage to root them on my end. I live in Oregon, and successfully grew this rose in my garden before I lost it after the wildfires here in September, 2020.
Please give my offer serious consideration, and please do not hesitate to reach out if you have any questions or concerns.
With best regards,
Cheryl Connell
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Hello, I'm so sorry you lost your plant. Mine is in decline. My best chance of getting good wood for a cutting is in the spring. Remind me again then and I'll try.
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#4 of 5 posted
13 OCT 23 by
caduceus
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Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I am sorry to hear that yours is in decline. And where there is life, there is hope. I pray that your rose survives whatever weather conditions this winter brings. I will be in touch in late spring to plan next steps with you.
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Hello,
I am following up to see if I can acquire any cuttings from your Red Talisman Cl. for propagation. I hope that it is still doing well enough to share some material.
Thanks again for your help.
With best regards,
Cheryl Connell
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Is this rose shade tolerant? I have a position with 4 hours of sun a day, and the rest of the day with filtered sun. Thanks.
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#1 of 6 posted
22 MAR 10 by
MaryG
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Hi Charlene,
I checked three different rose books that go to some trouble to try to identify those roses that can do reasonably well in shade. None of them mention 'Crépuscule' for any degree of shade tolerance, and one book, the Peter Beales' "Classic Roses" book, specifically recommends that you be put it into full sun.
There are plenty of roses that Peter Beales doesn't mention any sun/shade information on; he singled this one out for needing sun to do its best. So perhaps Peter knows of some very unsuccessful attempts to grow the rose in partial shade? The books do list some noisettes that can succeed with some shade, but apparently this rose just isn't one of them. Sorry.
Best wishes,
Mary
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Just a note ... full sun in England is very different than full sun in Texas or even parts of California. It's likely the rose will "reach for the sun", but I have found that many roses said to require full sun by authors from England fry to a crisp in the mountains of northern California unless they have some shade or filtered sunlight.
Smiles,
Lyn
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How true. I live a half an hour from the beach, but most of my roses appreciate a little shade at some point in the day. The ideal spot here faces east, towards the morning sun, then gets shade in the afternoon hours.
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Here's a photo of Crepuscule in a previous garden of mine. In a 3m wide corridor between the (one-story) house and a colourbond fence, facing east, and subject to howling salt-laden winds at times. Zone 9b, summers hot to very hot.
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Mine grows in similar conditions and blooms well. I live in the Bay Area, Ca.
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My own thrives in those same conditions. The San Francisco Bay Area is where I make my home.
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22 DEC 06 by
digger
I was 9 years old in 1961 when we moved back to the states (Air Force brat). Dad got Mom a Mirandy and a Crimson Glory. One of my chores was to care for them. The obsession began. The fragrant rascal is always one of the first roses I look for. Mirandy was the best of my fragrant reds in Sacramento. Mirandy does not like the cold weather in Montana as much as my other old pals. She survives and puts a decent show. She is not the star she was CA though. Canes die back below the mulch line. Spring growth is slow and steady (8 yr old plant). First blooms are usually a couple weeks behind the bulk of our roses and sometimes the last. Petals often quill quickly but the blooms smell fantastic. Mirandy gets 4 feet tall and wide here (as opposed to 8 x 8 in Sacramento). Growth isn't as thick as I like and she looks leggy even if she isn't tall. We get a dozen to 20 blooms per flush. Turnaround time is average, about 6 weeks. We don't have blackspot here. Don't recall having seen powdery mildew on Mirandy. Excellent fragrant red for warmer zones. Dave Boyd South central Montana - zone 4/5 |
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I wonder if your Mirandy in Sac was on its own roots? Mine is, and it is about three or four years old, and still three feet or so tall. It is still short, but produces great blooms (see pics). My plant is in only about five hours of sun per day here in West Marin Co. We get morning fog in summer, but rarely all day, and she gets some rust and blackspot, no mildew, and keeps blooming all summer and fall.
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Where in west marin? I am in san rafael, thinking of this rose...iget sun alllll day
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I’m in the San Geronimo Valley. I took out my Mirandy a few years ago. It would be better on a grafted plant I think, as it has weak growth.
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My son went to school there! And I am copres of local rose society with a gal in the valley named Connie. So many loveky gardens out your way!
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I know Connie. She’s been to my garden. I grow about 130 roses on an acre. Most of mine are older, rare roses from Vintage Gardens.
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And thanks for tips on mirandy
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18 DEC 10 by
Bebba
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Which is "brighter", Lady Emma or Pat Austin?
And does Lady Emma's head nod, like Pat's?
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19 DEC 10 by
Karen
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In my zone 5b Lincoln, NE garden, these are very different roses, both beautiful in their own right. Pat Austin is a large shrub (5' x 5') with almost continuous bloom. The flowers are a clear, nonfading orange. The bloom is larger with a loose structure and is not as longlasting as Lady Emma. Lady Emma is a much smaller shrub (2' x 2') with continuous bloom. The bloom is orange shading to yellow and fades to coral and cream - all offset by beautiful burgundy foliage. The bloom is upright. In other climates Lady Emma does get larger but she struggles along in my no-spray garden. She is my all time favorite rose. I keep hoping I can find away to grow her sustainably.
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I don't grow PA, but Lady Emma is a great rose. Flowers don't nod, bush is healthy in my NO. California garden. I don't spray. Foliage is never diseased, and she blooms and blooms her heart out.
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8 FEB 16 by
Benaminh
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Pat Austin in Southern California is stingy with flowers. The beautiful bright colors last almost a day before fading to dirty dishrag Manila yellow. On the second or third day the bloom shatters to nothing. The fragrance is insipid, in fact everything about this rose is disappointing and forgettable. Perhaps better suited to an overcast climate, I cannot recommend this rose for locations with 85+F daytime temperatures, even if given afternoon shade.
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