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I take it we're under attack by a no-hoper again.
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25 MAY by
styrax
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It is pretty annoying. Maybe a CAPTCHA should be added to the registration page.
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Non-registered members are allowed to post to the Q&A in the hope there would be guests that would share useful information but preferred not to register. It looks like that will have to change, at least temporarily while we figure out a better way to discourage inappropriate postings.
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22 MAY 12 by
 goncmg
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The band I got last year from Vintage is now a willowy and leggy 3 foot tall plant..........here in 6a...........this one surprised me in a good way, it is another "happy" and "willing" rose...........the color is, by modern standards (excusing as usual, Knock Out from criticism) HARSH.........but in the HARSH is also GLOWING.......and bright...........and happy..........brilliant cherry-red with gold ad yellow notes.........extremely fragrant........big floppy bloom.............charming..........wish the parentage had been recorded. MOST notable for me in cold/humid/hot/wet extreme 6a is how for being 86 years old this one is remarkably disease resistant................Fandango from 1950 also looks very much like Cuba but is a touch less glowing in color and at least for me, extremely more weak and sick..........
Margaret? Kim? Do you or anyone have any guesses on Cuba's lineage??
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Goncmg, I can find no reference to the parentage. However its initial name was 'Lincoln Seedling' {see 1927 reference.) This name may refer to a parentage, but more likely the colour lincoln red (see the 1928 and 1929 references) .
Admin, I think 'Lincoln Seedling and 'Cuba' could be merged?
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23 MAY 12 by
jedmar
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Patricia, the reference mentions Beckwith & Sons, but not Pernet-Ducher. Are we certain that this is the same rose? Why should P-D have named a rose "Lincoln seedling"?
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When I saw the 1927 reference, I presumed Beckwith was the English distributor. The listing for George Beckwith & Son does say they were a wholesale nursery where “one can see most new British and continental roses in testing.” But there is no proof. I can find no more on ‘Lincoln Seedling’, although the 1931 Australian reference does hint of one.
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24 MAY 12 by
goncmg
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Jedmar and Patricia, discussion like this and delicious tid-bits of historical minutiae like this are exactly WHY I love being on this site..............!!! I love being SURPRISED by a variety, whether one I bought on a whim, or saved from a grocery store or got as a substitute or in error and Cuba just makes me smile----and I needed a "free" rose in my order so I randomly chose it...........the band was so tiny and weak and I never gave it much, and it has developed into that gangly but happy plant and asks nothing from me, just blooms its head off, makes me love its crass and unique color............so often I have waited so anxiously for some "big release" to impress me or even a "past winner"....and quiite often, there are just crickets, nothing, underwhelming/disappointing. Marilyn Monroe is doing this to me right now-----nice plant, my blooms all have a greenish cast to them and not at all creamy apricot, blackspot..............BUT then there is my little gangly Cuba (and a few others like my bands of Comanche and Sunny South and Daily Sketch and Futura)...proving that sometimes NO expectations are the BEST expectations!
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if the colour of Cuba appeals to you, have a look at Hector Deane, an old rose recently drawn to my attention by Patricia and Billy. They're emphasising its superb perfume, like Turkish Delight (Billy says "instant endorphins!"). But it still wouldn't suit my garden!
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Aaargh, if it's me you're asking ... I'm no expert! It's an interesting colour but wouldn't suit my garden.
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9 AUG 21 by
styrax
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How is 'Cuba' doing for you now? I'm looking to see if any of the "museum piece" roses are good for humid climates.
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26 APR 23 by
goncmg
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Hi there! I’m just now seeing this comment. Cuba is performing well in coastal NE Florida! No difference to how it performed in Ohio. Disease free (I do spray) with fast repeat bloom. Own root the plant stays fairly modest in size. It’s great in a pot.
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15 MAR 23 by
styrax
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Nice intensity of the color here.
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15 APR 23 by
Scott
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We got this rose from John Greenwood of Greenwood Daylilly Farms. His nursery is near the old J&P breeding facility in Somis, CA. He was visiting one day in the 90's (?) and saw the bright single flowering plant on their trash pile. They were getting rid of it as they did not want to introduce another groundcover rose that would compete with Happy Chappy. He ask if he could take it and try it out. He really liked it and when asking his staff on what they should call it they said it was like it was on fire. Incendio was it's name from then on. John brought it us and we have found that it hold it color much better than Happy Chappy in the heat which tends to go pink. Great ground cover rose!
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15 APR 23 by
styrax
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MUCH better name than Happy Chappy, too. Who even comes up with those?
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