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Johno 
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Prides Corner Farms is marketing this series into Flower Carpet, as well as a rose called Flower Carpet Orange. None of them groundcovers. I don't know if its a massive error or some new re-marketing.
Anthony Tesselaar Plants Pty. Ltd does not list any of these on their site. Ah, I see a new division.
Apparently they are under a new and distinctly different 'Flower Carpet Fragrant Shrub Roses' marketing.
tesselaar.com/plants/flower-carpet-fragrant-shrub-roses/
I love the smell of confusion in the morning... ._.
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#1 of 9 posted
2 MAR by
Johno
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In 2024 there were five roses in the Showpiece series. Anthony Tesselaar International is Noack's agent, and they leave the propagation to others. I grow several in the series and their upright growth would tend to preclude them from being called flower carpet roses. They were marketed as root grown which is not the norm in Oz.
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I do think its a strange choice. They do seem to be adding a peach persica and a cherry red to their traditional lineup, so they're not abandoning it. But they also seem to making this new sub-category for upright roses with romantic form. I wish they would have just named that new lineup with something more relatable to the plant habit. It makes it more confusing, because now its yet another branding for the Showpiece/Eau de Parfum/Timeless/Voluptia line. Its REALLY hard educating normal gardeners about roses as it is. This does not help.
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Roses don't meet the general expectation of "groundcovers" anyway: as far as I've tried them (which wasn't far) they don't suppress weed growth adequately, they're not nice to weed among, that's too far down for me to want to bend and sniff. There was a certain pleasure in thinking of following the advice to use a golfclub to deadhead them, but it didn't seem worth getting a golfclub for that.
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I've seen basically 2(3) my whole life that actually hugged the ground tightly. I think you're right for 99% of the cases though. Nozomi, Green Snake, and Petit Serpent. (The latter two are related).
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From the photos of Green Snake, I'd say it was well-named. Fangs.
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I remember it from the old Heirlooms display gardens. I remember it looking oddly rubbery. Strange rose.
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I like my Green Snake. Shiny, healthy foliage, never a spot of disease here in Black Spot Central. Granted it doesn't suppress weeds, but neither does it choke or overwhelm the other plants I grow through it, like zinnias, dahlias and Lady's Mantle. And it grows in shade.
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No, but cats avoid it.
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"Showstopping, Oversized Blooms: The largest pink hybrid tea blooms you can grow—up to 6 inches across."
I dunno about that. The largest pink HTs I've ever seen were Rose Rhapsody, Caramel Sunset, and Gentle Giant. I live in a climate where you can see the largest possible. 'Elina' is so far my record breaker, with 'Rose Rhapsody', 'Neptune', 'Lloyd Center Supreme', and 'Claret' rounding out the top limits. 'Love and Peace', 'Color Magic', and 'Sunstruck' come close, but not quite. 'Pristine' might make the cut but I've never grown it.
A little disappointed that Pretty Lady Rose and Lasting Love are probably the parents. If its another dark pink HT, it needs to have something improved. When a company uses Lasting Love but does not use something to breed against its high level of black spot, its not impressive. LL has a lot of amazing qualities, but its hamstrung by its high rate of black spot. Both parents do well against other diseases, however. I just expected more out of Weeks. I guess they thought, "Pretty Lady Rose" is nice, but it doesn't have much fragrance, so they crossed it with a fragrant rose in a similar color category? I dunno lol.
Apparently Weeks also submitted another new rose to Spring Hill called 'Fashion Forward'. It might be the better buy? Rounded OGR form pink/white bicolor, but only some scent. Can't decipher parentage though, but the clusters seem to be nicely rounded. However, its like the Xth pink to magenta to violet flori by them many years in a row. Confusing. Where's the pizazz?
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The largest blooms I have had were on a well-established Mr. Lincoln during a warm spring which followed a wet winter.
As for your RR, it still surprises me that Fragrant Cloud was being used as a parent as late as 1999. RR won't grow for me in zone 5, alas.
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I can see that. I have seen some very large Oklahoma blooms in downtown Portland. Oh, Dolly Parton does get huge too. Add that one to the ridiculous list lol.
Both Fragrant Cloud and Ingrid Berman are on well-behaved mid-sized plants here, but Rose Rhapsody is taller, the blooms are bigger. Mine is own root and 6' tall. Its a beastly rose. It does not need to be grafted at all. Stems, foliage, and blooms are all large-portioned.
JP not selling this rose every single year possible is a mis-step.
JP went through a phase in the 1990s by crossing their mainstays with some classics. So you had like Honor x Sterling Silver or Jadis, or a JP Apricot HT x some classic Apricot HT, or whatever. I dunno why. It worked in a few cases, and not so much in other cases. I think they were just throwing fragrant roses at their own HTs because fragrance sells and their sales started slipping when the Simplicity hedge package sales began to decline. Then Knock Out won the AARS and that version of JP died.
Sorry its not hardy enough for Z5.
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Ya want big ass blooms? Get Legends. It only throws about one per season, but you better stand back when it does. Way bigger than Color Magic, Rose Rhapsody, Oklahoma, etc. (WEKsiamia).
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I tried it when it was new :( Blind shoots and stubby stems here in the Portland Metro. It might prefer warmer?
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Or maybe you just got a badly grafted plant. It happens.
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I got both ITMood and Legends the year they came out from Portland Nursery back when it was actually fun to drive in Portland. So that'd be Dr. Huey. I think that was before Week's alleged booboo. The We Salute You that I have was after that, and its the only virused rose I own, because you simply cannot get it anymore. I've had people message me demanding wood from it, even after explaining its patented and virused lol. Anyhow, perhaps Legends is better on multiflora in this climate. Due to its bloom size and shorter nature, it'd be advantageous in breeding to healthier roses.
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Medallion ? Did we forget about the size of Medallion?
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Its not a rose we see here, probably because of the King's Ransom link. But the photos have seemed large. Parole, suggested below, is also massive. Spring Hill/Weeks/JP need to select their words when marketing more wisely.
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#7 of 12 posted
19 FEB by
Johno
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What about the Kordes rose, Parole? Magnificent when you get the perfect bloom, the reality is with the size, you are usually looking at a bit of mess.
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I also have Parole, which is no doubt quite large and fragrant to boot. But for me, Medallion still takes the cake on pure size. My Veteran's Honor(s) can get quite large in the late Fall (late October) as well.
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#11 of 12 posted
19 FEB by
Lee H.
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Here on Indiana’s southern border, Medallion is indeed quite large, but is still routinely surpassed by Papa Meilland.
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I have two bushes of Papa Meilland, and agree he can have huge blooms. But in my garden there are larger, but few more fragrant than Papa Meilland. It's a bit winter tender up here around Chicago.
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Australia’s rose of the year, not Auckland rose of the year
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That is probably why the codename doesn't seem to imply what its bred from, but rather the awards it gathered.
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31 JAN by
Johno
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No, just a simple typo.
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Looks like Knights Roses are selling this as Silver Flash, based on the bronze medal winner 2021 and Harkness breeder, nothing else that year fits.
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31 JAN by
Johno
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Looks like it. Shows the tell-tale white streak, with the white becoming more pronounced as the bloom ages.
The only other red Harkness bronze medal winner in 2021 was N 293 A, but it lacks the white flash.
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