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Which of the 'Westerland' sport family has the best color?
Which has color which is clear, not dull, and doesn't turn pinkish?
I have read that 'Westerland' is excellent for cold climates, repeats and is fragrant, but I have never cared for the color.
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#1 of 13 posted
10 SEP 18 by
 Jay-Jay
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Maybe more fun in sowing Your own Westerland seedlings (most of the outcome is splendid) than buy a sport?
In my humble opinion, some of my seedlings are way better than the mother/hip-parent Westerland.
Better scented, longer lasting, nicer foliage an better growing habit/better suited as a climber.
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The plant Jay-Jay gave me is a most satisfactory pink/orange/red colour and very healthy too.
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#3 of 13 posted
10 SEP 18 by
Jay-Jay
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Please take a look at my this years' seedlings in my journal and my earlier seedlings of Westerland at my breeder page.
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Your seedlings look splendid. For me to grow some I would have to buy a 'Westerland', which I don't really want to do.
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#5 of 13 posted
10 SEP 18 by
Jay-Jay
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This-one might come to The States with Becky and John Hook from Roseraie du Désert: https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.69439.2
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I love your 'Noortje'. Now, that shows good color and good shape as well, IMO.
I don't think the Hooks have made it to the US yet.
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#10 of 13 posted
14 SEP 18 by
Jay-Jay
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And I'll have to send them another Noortje.
Thank You for Your kind compliment
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#6 of 13 posted
10 SEP 18 by
Jay-Jay
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Or just ask someone in the USA, that grows this rose, if they would be so kind to send You some (OP) hips.
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Are seeds restricted by importing laws?
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#8 of 13 posted
11 SEP 18 by
Jay-Jay
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Autumn Sunset was by far my favorite. I used to have one trained for years.
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#12 of 13 posted
23 JAN 19 by
mark50
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Hi All,,,Do any of you know where I could get a couple of Lemon Meringue Roses? I've called nurseries and garden centers all over the US with no luck. Bare root, potted or cuttings, doesnt matter to me. I had one for years and it was the best rose Ive ever grown. I am in Atlanta. It took the heat and humidity like a charm. But I lost it one spring and cannot find it again in the US. Of the 50+ roses I grow this one was the best in every way, Hopfully I can find a Westerland and an Autumn Sunset soon....If I have those maybe I'll get the same growth and habit as in lemon meringue and who knows, maybe a sport of Lemon Meringue from the Autumn Sunset will form!! My Lemon Meringue grew sports of the westerland several times. Thanks
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Hortico has it. A gamble, but they have it.
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18 JAN 19 by
mark50
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This message is for William Radler:
I grew a rose you discovered by the name of Lemon Meringue. I grow several roses in my garden. In all, 17 bushes across 5 rose types are your creations. And Lemon Meringue is my favorite of all. It grew very well in my Atlanta garden. Unfortunately it died suddenly one spring while in it's first bloom cycle that year. I have not been able to find it for sale except for a grower in Canada but their reviews make them appear to be an expensive gamble. I was hoping you might know who has this rose for sale or cuttings and is willing to ship to Atlanta.
I have posted a picture of Lemon Meringue if you care to see how beautiful it became.
Thank you for any help you can offer! - Mark Harris
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Lemon Meringue™, as you most likely know, is a sport of Autumn Sunset which I found on a plant of Autumn Sunset that I was growing. It was introduced by Weeks Wholesale Rose Grower, Inc.
Roses come and go in the rose industry and if you look on the internet at the Weeks 2018 catalog on page 7, or in the 2019 internet catalog, Lemon Meringue™ is not listed. It is my assumption that Weeks has decided not to sell it. (On the other hand, their 2019 picture of Autumn Sunset™ looks more like Lemon Meringue™. Perhaps they didn't have a better photo. I hope that Weeks is not selling Autumn Sunset™ when the plant is actually Lemon Meringue™.)
Generally, rose companies often don't tell rose breeders when a rose will not be propagated and sold.
If you could find a retail seller of Weeks Roses, you could take a gamble that it might be Lemon Meringue™. If it turns out to be Autumn Sunset™, you would still have a good rose but the coloring would be a light orange blend.
On the internet, the only vendor I could find is Vandermeer Nursery. And I am not familiar with dealing with that nursery. Nevertheless, I have ordered roses from other Canadian nurseries with good success.
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#2 of 4 posted
20 JAN 19 by
mark50
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Thanks for responding. You're right, Weeks said they are no longer producing this rose. I checked the nursery you suggested and it appears they do have it. I sent them an email so we'll see. Thanks again. Mark
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By coincidence, I came across this card this week:
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#4 of 4 posted
22 JAN 19 by
mark50
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Ha!! That's pretty fitting.
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