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I looked this up because the name seemed unusual. From Wikipedia: "Château Gruaud-Larose is a winery in the Saint-Julien appellation of the Bordeaux region of France. It is also the name of the red wine produced by this property. The wine produced here was classified as one of fifteen Deuxièmes Crus in the original Bordeaux Wine Official Classification of 1855."
You'd think they would have been offered a red rose.
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The rose pictured is stunningly beautiful. This could perhaps be sold in the USA as e.g., Rose Castle, a clumsy translation to be sure, but one which might not put off a buying public which must have its' easy to remember names.
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I can confirm that this rose is indeed stunning and have planted 3 here in our gardens. We are in the lower Cévennes France Zone 7a or 7b. The scent is of lychee fruit and very pleasant it is too. Our soil is slightly acidic and the first bare-root was planted three years ago and after six months in October finally flowered with one solitary but stunning rose the second season was very generous and gave us huge clusters like a floribunda which were simply ready made bouquets ( see photos from last summer ). Now I’ve pegged it and stands almost six foot tall and has blooms all over and is one of the healthiest roses here with next to no BS.
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Hello,
I purchased a Gruaud Larose through Palatine. How much sun does yours receive (ex: full sun, morning sun/afternoon shade)?
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Hello Roselover1
Our most mature plant receives full sun it is pointing almost due south. In fact just had some friends visit the gardens earlier and Gruaud had one saturated ( we’ve had a week of very heavy rain ) half-open flower poking out so I picked it off and presented it as a gift to one of the visitors. With all the rain I wasn’t expecting the rose to have much of a scent but voilà - yes quite perfumed with a strong citrus-lychee note. Lovely scent.
We have four now and the mature one is 3 years old standing at well over 6ft tall and 4ft + wide after only light pruning in March. There must be well over 150 buds on it right now.
Happy gardening. Peter
PS this one is in it’s fourth season was quite slow to develop took around 18 months to establish, one flower then 3-4 then last year dozens and dozens sometimes in groups of 5 or 6 held up almost in a ready-made bouquet.
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You are very lucky to have four of these roses I have been trying to get one and have not had any success. I cried when I heard Palatine was closing because that’s my only hope of getting this rose here in the US if you have any advice for other distributors please let me know
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Hello there. We are in France so can’t help with sending cuttings though I’m sure if you look up sellers of ‘NIRP’ branded varieties, of which Gruaud LaRose is one of, or you could contact them direct in Italy/ France and they may well be able to give you the name of a nursery in the US.
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Palatine announced they would have it ordered for December 2024!!
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This rose seems to need/take ages to settle. Seven years after planting it is now developing more canes and laterals than before and blooming a lot and repeatedly. Seems to like our too dry and too hot summers, the second on a row and temps over 38°C.
But alas, due too those same weather conditions, it is (au contraire to normal) very sparse with its gorgeous scent.
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Jay-Jay hello. I was just looking here for some advice with regard to this cultivar. I planted it in a partially shaded spot in very rocky earth in November 2022, bare root grafted onto Laxa ex. Loubert. We’re in the lower Cévennes ( more like a zone 9 these days), dry winter and hot and dry summer. First season it grew reasonably well, small, but with an early flush of beautiful exquisitely shaped small flowers with, as confirmed here, a great scent. I’ve read that it is a variety that needs regular watering and feeding and it does get pampered with some dried sheep’s manure. This second season I was expecting more, of course, and I had hoped to have a short climber after 2-3 years as most old varieties including HP’s thrive here. Well this second season is not looking great. A flush and then defoliation with black spot and now end of season the plant is smaller and looking pretty pathetic. Last autumn I successfully struck a cutting and nurtured that like a hen with her egg, and finally planted out in March. So effectively I pruned it. I’m wondering if this cultivar doesn’t like being pruned? Your experience and any advice would be greatly appreciated. The cutting, after 5 months in the ground, is tiny and barely changed though the leaves look healthy. The original plant is around 60cm tall. I’m toying with the idea of moving it to an area where the earth may be less rocky and deeper. Cheers, Peter. Next door is a modern variety that is thriving (Gentle Hermione) though behind that cultivar there is Graham Thomas which is also very small.
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Good afternoon Peter,
Our plant still keeps small. Never developed into a climber... not even into a bush.
A few laterals and every year or so a new cane develops and an old one dies. It flowers sparsely, but repeatedly.
We also have just one to two feet of fertile topsoil on boulder clay. And it stands in partial shade too.
Next to it stands (discussed/questioned by some) Rose de Rescht, that thrives. Just as William Lobb.
I would call Souvenir du Docteur Jamain a "weak brother" in our garden. But it survived till now.
I'm not much of a help to You alas.
Maybe someone else can join in with some advice.
Enjoy Fall!
Best Regards, Jay-Jay.
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Jay-Jay good evening
Thank you for your thorough reply, which at least unfortunately confirms what I have experienced isn’t unique, and that sadly this cultiver will not become a climber. As you say, yours isn’t even a shrub. I will cherish it and it’s offspring as well as I can, for the flowers are one of my favourites. Kind regards, Peter
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I thought I’d post a summary of my experience with this variety. Bought direct from Meilland in a pot and planted in a well exposed SE part of the gardens near a warm dry stone wall. So far, so good. Gets an ample amount of sunlight and some dried sheep manure now and again. It grew a little, up to 3ft, then produced two beautiful peony-looking frilly-edged flowers. Then the leaves started to show signs of marsonia and defoliated. This second year I lightly pruned in the spring as there was no more growth and expected the plant to react positively. Alas, no. The new foliage has turned almost black, and the stems haven’t grown. In April I planted a cutting of Ghislaine de Féligonde 3ft to the side of this one and it is, after two months, already taller. There are many different varieties growing very well here, both modern and old, the majority thrive, but this variety, along with 5 of the 7 Meilland varieties planted here, just won’t grow. Today it was shovel pruned, and the other 4 Meilland’s will also be taken out this week.
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Stunning specimen of Zéphirine Drouhin, well done. I planted ours 18 months ago in a shaded spot at the base of an ash tree and it is only 3ft tall. Your specimen is what I was hoping for, though I’ve read it can be a slow grower depending on climate, exposition.
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