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1 AUG
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From HMF and also from my 160 fragrant own root varieties (39 are older Austins) in my heavy clay, zone 5 regarding VASE LIFE of cut rose blooms:

Kordes roses like Poseidon, Kiss me Kate, Deep Purple and Summer Sun make good cut blooms. But Savannah doesn't last long in the vase (can't take hot full sun either).

French roses that last long in the vase and can take hot full sun: Versigny, Peter Mayle, Dee-lish, Sweet Mademoiselle, Firefighter, Moonlight Romantica, Liv Tyler, Rouge Royal, Princess Charlene de Monaco.

AUSTINS FOR THE VASE: Evelyn (4 days), Claire Rose, Young Lycidas, James Galway, Perdita, Jayne Austin, Swan, Dove. Fair Bianca (one week), Tradescant & Tess of d’Urberville , The Squire (1 week), Princess Alexandra of Kent, William Shakespeare 2000, Munstead Wood.

AVERAGE (about 3 days): The Dark Lady, Golden Cel., Prospero, The Prince, English Garden, Sweet Juliet, Abraham Darby, Carding Mill, Sharifa Asma, Radio Times, Mary Magdalene.

I don't cut Abraham Darby since it DOES NOT last long in the vase like Evelyn, plus Abe. Darby has sharp citrus scent (less quality than Evelyn's sweet peaches scent).

SHATTERS: Tamora, Heritage, Ambridge rose, Graham Thomas, Scepter d’ Isle, Queen of Sweden.

Niels in Denmark compiled days in the vase: Heritage 2 Tradescant 4 William Shakespeare 2000 4 Brother Cadfael 5 Benjamin Britten 5 Golden Celebration 3 Scepter D Isle 3 Alnwick Castle 3 Crocus Rose 3 Teasing Georgia 3 Glamis Castle 4 Falstaff 4 Othello 5 Graham Thomas 3 Evelyn 4 Wisley 3

Crocus Rose 4 Abraham Darby 3 The Dark Lady 3 Charles Austin 3

Brother Cadfael, Benjamin Britten and Othello have good vase life. Pegasus and Bishops Castle make good cut-flowers. Pretty Jessica is low-thorn.

Non-Austin ROSES FOR THE VASE:
Sunset Celebration, Tournament of Roses, Tuscan Sun, Granada, Louise Odier

Don Juan, French Lace, Peace, Fragrance Cloud, Veteran's Honor, Let Freedom Ring, Black Magic, Touch Of Class, Memorial Day, Valencia, Elina, Alpine Sunset

Fragrant Plum, Bride's Dream (thrips-fest), Olympiad, St Patrick, Helmut Schmidt

Kentucky Derby, Moonstone, Flo Nelson, Perfume Delight, Calico, St. Patrick, Tiffany, Pascali, Prominent, Stainless steel, Oklahoma, Mirandy, Chandos Beauty, Elle, Papa Meilland, Rouge Royale, Arizona, Floral Fairy Tale, Big Purple, Liv Tyler

Osiana, Imperatrice Farah, Black Baccara, Tineke, Frederic Mistral, Firefighter

Old Garden Roses: Paul Neyron Mrs. b. Cant Henry Nevard 'Archiduchesse Elisabeth d'Autriche' & 'Souvenir de la Malmaison, La Reine.

For hot & dry: "Betty White" "Moonstone" "Toulouse Latrec", "Yves Piaget" "Tournament of Roses", Veteran's Honor, Dee-lish, Purple Lodge, Sweet Mademoiselle, Moonlight Romantica, Peter Mayle, Prairieville Prince.
29 JUL
Public
Will check this with local stores.
3 JUL
Public
thornless roses: Renae
https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2138303/thornless-rose
1 MAY
Public
https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2134600/fertilizing-your-success-and-why-organics

Wish list to buy: Geoff Hamilton & the Alnwick rose and Leander (died twice in my zone 5 winter).
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