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1 OCT 19 by
BrianP
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Peony Listing Omission
Dr. C.F. Patterson
Lactiflora, Double, rose-form, deep pink. Fragrance slight to absent. Flowers held close to foliage. Plant is very sturdy, with strong stems; no staking is required. Season late - with Sarah Bernhardt. Little or no fertility.
This peony is thought to be a seedling developed by Dr. C.F. Patterson, former Head, Department of Horticulture, University of Saskatchewan, 1922-1960. It was obtained from Saskatchewan and distributed, mostly wholesale, by Ferncliff Gardens of Mission, BC. The parentage records have been destroyed. It may be the same seedling as Patterson's #1044, which received a Certificate of Merit at the American Peony Society regional show, Saskatoon, 1939. Dr. Patterson did not name any of his peony seedlings, but was well known for his lily and hardy fruit introductions.
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#1 of 3 posted
1 OCT 19 by
 jedmar
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What is the source of this information please?
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#2 of 3 posted
2 APR 23 by
BrianP
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Source of information is from personal communication with David Jack of Ferncliff Gardens, as well as American Peony Society Bulletin 1939, and listing in 1998 spring catalog of Alyssa's Garden, Fort St. John, BC.
I was also in communication with Dr. E. Maginnes, Department of Horticulture, University of Saskatchewan who advised that Dr. Patterson's breeding records were destroyed when their offices were moved to a new building.
Both Ferncliff Gardens and Alyssa's Garden mispelled the name Dr. F. Patterson, when in fact it should be Dr. C.F. Patterson. Ferncliff Gardens confirmed with me by letter that this was a peony of Saskatchewan origin.
This peony was also sold by La Pivoinerie D'Aoust at Hudson QC (no printed catalogs were made) - no longer in operation.
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#3 of 3 posted
2 APR 23 by
jedmar
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Thank you, we added your comments on the provenance as a note, as well as the information on the peony
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2 APR 23 by
BrianP
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"Peonies for Pleasure" by Miss Ella V. Baines, florist at Springfield Ohio, 1917, states "semi-rose ty0pe; midseason. A variety purchased in England under number and named in Holland for our ex-President. It is a deep, rich, brilliant red in color different from any red we know, and a grand Peony." (page 21).
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#1 of 1 posted
2 APR 23 by
jedmar
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Reference added, thank you!
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20 AUG 21 by
BrianP
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Porter's Double Altai was first listed in Honeywood Nursery (Parkside SK) General Price List #25, issued February 1963. It was merely described as "a good double form originating here". It was also indicated that it was shorter than a double form from Holland. Porter's Double Altai was offered mail order until 1972, when shipping was largely discontinued for woody plants..
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17 DEC 20 by
BrianP
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Re rose Thyra Hammerich,
Not sure if this is an error, but I've just reviewed an article about this rose in L"Horticulteur Francais, 1968, page 113, in which it states that the breeder is Charles Verdier. The article also says it is a seedling of Duchesse de Sutherland, and that Verdier has just put it for sale along with two other roses of his, Henry Ledechaux and Clovis (both described there as well, briefly)
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17 DEC 20 by
jedmar
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We have corrected the error that 'Thyra Hammerich' was introduced by Eugène Verdier & fils. It was by his brother Charles Verdier, as you mention. However, Ch. Verdier is not the breeder, but introduced several of Lédéchaux's roses (incl. 'Clovis' and 'Henri Lédéchaux'). In the 19th century, they did not take it exactly with terms like "obtenteur". I assume Ch. Verdier paid for the roses and became the owner. The reference from 1869 clearly points to an amateur breeder as the originator.
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