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'Rainbow' rose Reviews & Comments
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Arisyn,
Does your Rainbow set hips readily?
Your rose bloom form does look like the early photos of Rainbow and Papa Gontier. I wish we had this rose in Australia.
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Continuing a thread in the 'Papa Gontier' comments.
We have 'Rainbow' listed as being "short". 'Rainbow' was said to be:
1898 moderately vigorous
1906 a bedding rose
1911 strong
1922 Hazelwood say 2
1936 growth 6/10
1987 weakling / vigorous
1922 resembles its parent in all features.
In 2005 I saw "Moser Pink Striped" which is thought to be 'Rainbow' and my fading memory tells me it was not all that tall.
I note that member Redwood Rose, California, says in one of her photos that 'Rainbow' is a "small grower".
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#1 of 3 posted
11 MAY 18 by
 HubertG
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Nevertheless, Rainbow is still a confirmed sport of Papa Gontier, so still should bear some resemblance to it.
Also, it's not really clear whether 'Improved Rainbow' is a sport or seedling of 'Rainbow'. My guess (totally speculative) is that it is more likely to be a seedling, firstly because I imagine it would be hard to detect a randomly striped rose sport on an already randomly stripey/blockey rose, and then propagate it to see whether the sport is fixed etc, and secondly, because the early descriptions do seem to suggest it is sufficiently different enough from 'Rainbow' to suggest it could a seedling. Maybe further research might shed more light on this.
The problem is that (from what I can understand) the American 'Rainbow' seems to be a re-identified rose from foundlings, so it can't be certain whether it is 'Rainbow' or 'Improved Rainbow'. Certainly the early photos here from AmiRoses show segmentally blocked colouring that is more consistent with 'Rainbow' descriptions.
In any case 'Rainbow' and 'Improved Rainbow' are the only stripey pink Teas (that I know of anyway), so those foundlings in California are bound to be one or the other. I assume that they have inherited their stripes from some old Hybrid Perpetual that probably lurked in the ancestry of 'Duchess of Edinburgh' (Papa Gontier's seed parent). Same with Mme Driout's stripes - from HP ancestry, maybe Bourbon.
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#2 of 3 posted
12 MAY 18 by
HubertG
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Another two striped Teas are 'Belle Panachée' (supposedly a sport of 'Francis Dubreuil') by Gamon, and 'Dr. Baillet' (Dr. Grill x Christine de Noue) by Corboeuf.
I'm not suggesting that these are likely identities for the found "Rainbow" roses, just that It is interesting to see the stripes appearing from the red Teas, which is consistent with what I was saying above about them likely to have older non-Tea ancestry.
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#3 of 3 posted
13 MAY 18 by
HubertG
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I just came across another striped tea. Dr. Valere Beaumez (Ketten Bros 1904) was sport from Dr Favre (Gamon 1899). Dr Favre was a magenta red tea and its sport had white stripes. Once again only the red teas seem to be sporting.
And there is also American Banner (Cartwright 1879) a striped sport of Bon Silene.
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From Trumbull & Beebe's Catalogue of Trees and Plants, 1902, page 85
"Rainbow - The color of this lovely rose is a deep Mermet pink, striped and splashed in the most fanciful way with rich Gontier color; just sufficient of this color to add greatly to its beauty; the base of the petals is a rich amber."
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Thanks. Reference added.
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3 JUL 14 by
Smtysm
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Can anyone describe/rate the fragrance?
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