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Discussion id : 12-800 most recent 13 JUL 06 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 23 JUN 06 by Meschuee

Hello.What a wonderful site. I have this gorgeous rose growing in a tub on my patio. Its scent is out of this world, strong and slightly spicey. I grew it from a cutting I took from a garden but I don't remember it's name. The blooms are large and the pink/orange in colour, as you can see. I would love to know what it is. I did think is had "Reverend" in it's name somewhere, but that's all I can recall.Thank you.Meschuee.(Penny).

Reply #1 of 21 posted 23 JUN 06 by Jody

Hi Penny, this beautiful rose looks like one of the English David Austin Roses. But he lists none with a Rev in the name. Could it be another name like a Getrude Jekyll or Ingenious Mr. Fairchild? try going to his home page. You can search the pix by color. Good luck !!! www.Davidaustinroses.com	REPLY

Reply #2 of 21 posted 23 JUN 06 by Meschuee

Hello.Thank you very much for your reply. I am probably completely wrong about the "Reverend" part. I did wonder whether it was something like "Buff Beauty" but don't know, without checking, whether it's the right form for that. I'll certainly take a look at the David Austin site. thank you for the link. Happy rose growing,Bye,Penny. :)	REPLY

Reply #11 of 21 posted 25 JUN 06 by Meschuee

I've just uploaded an uptodate photograph of "Abe". :)	REPLY

Reply #3 of 21 posted 23 JUN 06 by Meschuee

Hello again.I found "Gertrude Jekyll" and my rose could certainly be her. The scent is mentioned by someone on another site as being the lovliest and strongest they have smelled. Mine is more orange on some blooms but looks like her on the more pink ones. Thank you again.Penny.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 21 posted 23 JUN 06 by Jody

Hi you are most welcome. This is a great site, isn't it. I don' t have any David Austin roses myself (yet anyway) so maybe some one else can help you more. It does look more orange in the pix. Whatever it is, it is a beautiful rose.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 21 posted 23 JUN 06 by HMF supporting member

Kim Rupert

Penny, take a look at Abraham Darby here on Help Me Find. The colors of your photos are very characteristic of what we see here in the Southern California desert. Abe's scent is heavy and a knock-out, too! Kim	REPLY

Reply #6 of 21 posted 23 JUN 06 by Meschuee

Hello both :)Thank you very much for the information and advice. Off to take a look at Abraham Darby right now.I took another photo of the same rose an hour or so ago and most of the organge colouring has gone, leaving a pink rose. Do hope you are able to give a home to some David Austin roses - some really lovely ones in the catalogue.Bye,Penny. :)	REPLY

Reply #7 of 21 posted 23 JUN 06 by Meschuee

Wheeee! I think you're right, Kim- my rose is "Abraham Darby". Lovely to be able to put a name to "him". I saw a photograph that is the image of my rose. Thank you very much for help with the sleuthing! Bye,Penny.	REPLY

Reply #9 of 21 posted 24 JUN 06 by HMF supporting member

Kim Rupert

You're welcome! Abe is distinctive enough to be immediately recognizable once you've gotten to know him.	REPLY

Reply #10 of 21 posted 25 JUN 06 by Meschuee

He certainly is. :)Just preparing a little bed for "Octavia Hill", who I got yesterday.Hope you weekend is a good one. Getting lunch and then watching cricket and the World Cup - rather different to watching roses!Bye,Penny.	REPLY

Reply #8 of 21 posted 24 JUN 06 by HMF supporting member

RoseBlush

Meschuee.........

HelpMeFind has couple of tools you can use to help you find your rose. When you click on "Roses" on the navigation bar to the left, it brings up the rose search page. You can click the radio button for "Contains" and type in "Reverend" in the search field and every rose that has "Reverend" will come up in the search results with links to the rose page.

A second tool you may find useful, is to click on "Breeders" on the navigation bar to the left and the search page for rose breeders will come up. If you type "Austin" in the search field, a breeder page for David Austin will come up. There is a tab for the roses he has bred near the top of the page. Just click on that tab and a list of his roses will appear with active links to the rose page in the HelpMeFind database.

The purpose of the HelpMeFind site is to provide you with the tools to find out about the roses you are interested in growing or already grow. I hope you enjoy the site.

Smiles,

Lyn, helpmefind.com

Reply #12 of 21 posted 25 JUN 06 by Meschuee

Hello Lyn.Thank you very much for the information. I certainly do enjoy the site, it was a wonderful find - serendipity!I'm very pleased you have found you all. Cooler here today and I've just put my new "Octavia Hill" in a spot where I can see her from the kitchen window, in the angle of my new trellising. She's so pretty.Bye,Penny.	REPLY

Reply #13 of 21 posted 30 JUN 06 by Anonymous-103823

Hello Penny,Could it be Leander? Its roses vary in colour from dark orange and yellow op to the lightest pink, all at the same plant.Greetings,Marloes	REPLY

Reply #14 of 21 posted 30 JUN 06 by Meschuee

Hello Marloes.Thanks very much for the suggestion of "Leander". I'll so some surfing and see what he's like.It's a very pretty rose whatever it's name. :)Just planted another climber, "Etoile de Hollande". Don't think I've room for many more!Bye,Penny.	REPLY

Reply #15 of 21 posted 7 JUL 06 by Jody

Hi Penny , did you decide if this was Abraham Darby for sure? or Leander? or? I am very pleased that one of my mystery roses finally bloomed and it is a Gertrude Jekyll. It was a clearance rose (1$) from a Garden sale. How is your Octavia Hill doing? Jody	REPLY

Reply #16 of 21 posted 7 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello Jody.Lovely to have your "Gertrude Jekyll" bloom, especially as she was a "cheapy". Gertrude Jekyll was a famous gardener, known throughout the world for her expertise (i expect you know that), and I believe her house and gardens can still be visited today. How wonderful it must be to have a rose named after yourself! I'm leaning towards "Abraham Darby" for my mystery rose, "Leander" seems a slightly different shape, but who's to say, really? They are both lovely.""Octavia" is settling in and flowering well but was hit by the heavy rain (much needed) we had the other day. I deadheaded her yesterday and I'm sure she'll be all right, except that she's planted in a heavy clay soil (I did put lighter soil and compost in the planting hole), all my roses are and I hope they put up with it.My "Mme. Alfred Carrier" wasn't happy under the apple tree so I moved her a few days ago and cut her right back as she had "whippy" canes. Have to wait and see now whether she's happier in the new place against a fence.All of the roses have blackspot. It seems rife this year. I know some people don't treat it - I wonder how their roses survive, mine go under if not given treatment. Bye, Penny.

Reply #17 of 21 posted 7 JUL 06 by Jody

Hi I think you're right, it's Abe. I saw a photo of Abe in another book that looked just like your rose. I hope your Madam Alfred C does well. that one is on my wish list. I gave up treating blackspot. In the damp climate I live in, it's impossible to get rid of it . I have tried organic and non organic and it just comes back and back. but the roses seem to do ok. My Pink Peace is thriving and yet has the Blackspot. yet, three others who do NOT have blackspot are dying off or just hanging in there. My local nursery man says it's cause I have moles and they nest in the rose roots. I never heard that before but I do have many moles and found a tunnel right behind the Midnight blue bush. so I may have to move it. Good luck with all your roses!!! Jody I got the Gertrude in a grab bag (literally a garabage bag) last March. 5 twigs for $5 at a garden club sale, no tags... I ended up with the Gallica Apothecary, a white Dog Rose, the Gertrude, one that hasn't bloomed , and one that died. Pretty good deal. Yet the ones I was telling you about that are dying I paid full price for from a Nursery. One can never tell with roses!!!

Reply #18 of 21 posted 12 JUL 06 by Lulu

Hi Penny, I grow several Abraham Darby roses and yours is certainly similar. Photos of David Austin roses however are often not enough as he has bred quite a few that look similar. You need to mention the growth pattern as well as that is often different in the roses that look similar. Abraham Darby grows long canes and can be treated as a climber. Does yours grow this way? When you are checking out his site take a good look at how they grow, Good luck, Lulu

Reply #19 of 21 posted 12 JUL 06 by Jody

Hi all, just a bit of rose trivia, I was just reading an interview with David Austin from 99. When asked his favorite David Austin roses he said : Eglantyne, Glamis Castle, The Countryman, Charlotte, Pat Austin, and Windflower.. Jody	REPLY

Reply #20 of 21 posted 12 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello Jody and Lulu.Thanks for your input. Yes, my "Abe" grows long thin canes and is climbing a trellis. In fact, after feeding with a rose food and organic seaweed feed, he's got a lot of new growth. I'm very pleased."Mme. Alfred Carrier" is beautiful - good luck with yours. Great to get roses at "give-away-prices" - if one doesn't survive, you've not lost a lot.My "Schoolgirl" is in flower. I didn't think she was happy but it seems she is. The other new climbers are puting out shoots, except "Zephine Drouhin", but she was planted a week or so later than the others. My friend doesn't treat her roses for blackspot either and they live! Very interesting piece of trivia. I like knowing that sort of thing. Bye, Penny.

Reply #21 of 21 posted 13 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello.I thought you might like to see the new growth on the rose we think is "Abraham Darby". Is it consistent with that rose?Thanks.Penny.	REPLY