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'Honoré de Balzac ®' rose Reviews & Comments
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Syn.'Meiparnin'
Bellissima rosa cespuglio Ibrido Tea/Romantica, a portamento vigoroso/eretto, ben ramificato. Fogliame lucido, verde medio. Fiori grandi, bianco crema, con bordi soffusi rosa carminio, singoli o in mazzi. Fragranza forte, dolce, con sentore di pesca. Rustica e rifiorente. Rifiorente. Fiori adatti x esposizione e taglio. H.90cm L.60cm.
(ROSACEAE) (Alain Meilland, Meilland International, Francia, 1997)
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Despite the rain in fall and cooler temps, I still can fill my vases with the flowers of this rose.
To ball, it seems to need both warm and wet weather. Then botrytis mould also appears.
The fragrance is very good too in cooler weather.
The plants are still full with shiny and healthy leafs. No Blackspot or Mildew.
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This rose is now (together with English Miss) the best performer in my rose-bed of large-flowered roses. Proved to be (for me as a surprise) one of the frost-hardiest roses. Most of the large flowered roses froze to the ground and some died; this-one didn't!!!
This one stands prominent and sturdy, with shining healthy leaves on a well-branched plant!
A keeper (despite the balling in wet conditions) and a rose I would recommend to others.
I would also recommend to alter the zones from 7a and warmer into 6a and warmer (maybe even 5a/b and warmer, but that's for others to try or prove in those climates!)
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Jay-Jay,
Thank you for sharing your experience with this rose. I have changed the zones to 6b and warmer. I thought it best to stay conservative until we hear that it grows well in colder zones.
Smiles,
Lyn
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#2 of 16 posted
18 MAY 12 by
 Jay-Jay
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You're welcome.
I'll make and upload some photo's to my original comment and later on to it's page.
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None of the many photos show it more than 3/4 open, apart from one showing it proliferating. Would you post a photo of it fully open, thanks - to show whether it can open!
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#4 of 16 posted
19 MAY 12 by
Jay-Jay
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More opened than on this photo ( http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.13637 ), I've never photographed, for the center is packed full with curled up leaves, as if forming a marble/bonce. Only once in 2009 in juli in hot dry conditions, I saw the rose-bed in Winschoten almost completely packed with flowers in different stages of opening.... And the fragrance wow: roses and peaches. (and that of a whole market-stall packed with the both of them!)
I'll do my best Margaret to see if I can catch the completely opened center, for until now I mostly cut these gems for the vase.
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Thank you! I'd guess all the other photographers don't think it's attractive when fully out, either.
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#6 of 16 posted
19 MAY 12 by
Jay-Jay
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You're quick Margareth.
The time I saw the flowers opened, I didn't realize that that was special. It was the first time I saw this rose.
Maybe our Portuguese rose-lover HENRIQUE RODRIGUES or RENZO from Italy might give further info or photo's of this rose, completely opened. (as for the different climate)
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#7 of 16 posted
9 JUL 12 by
Jay-Jay
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Is this open enough for You Margaret?
I hope the rains stop and this flower will be able to open completely.
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Actually I like the button eye, since I'm a heritage-rose fan!
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#9 of 16 posted
10 JUL 12 by
Jay-Jay
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But above You asked:
"None of the many photos show it more than 3/4 open, apart from one showing it proliferating. Would you post a photo of it fully open, thanks - to show whether it can open!"
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#13 of 16 posted
20 JUL 13 by
Jay-Jay
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Hi Margaret, today I photographed a plucked flower, that has completely opened.
It's exceptionally dry and warm, so this rose thrives!
You might judge Yourselves if this is an attractive stage.
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Thank you Jay-Jay; I see it does open!
Margaret
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The ARS Encyclopedia of Roses (2003) says this rose is hardy to zone 5. Botanica's ROSES (2000) says zones 4-9, but that must be with heavy winter protection. I agree with Jay-Jay's comments, as this rose was a surprise to me also. It grew quickly and has long, strong, single blooms that smell wonderful and are beautiful! It does seem to prefer dry, warm weather, but the blooms were undamaged for me as well after a 28 F night, when many other blooms were goners. This has been one of the coldest Januarys on record for this region, so I'll update this when spring arrives and I found out how this rose fared.
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#11 of 16 posted
26 JAN 13 by
Jay-Jay
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Dianne, aren't You confusing two roses? For this rose isn't single, but very double.
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#12 of 16 posted
26 JAN 13 by
Jay-Jay
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Oops I misunderstood You Dianne...
It proves, that I'm not that good in English at all.
I believe, that You meant, that the flowers are borne single on one stem... and not a single flowered rose!
At my place there are stems too, with more than one flower each.
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Jay Jay, your understanding of English is just fine. Referring to a rose as "single" normally does refer to the number of petals, and I should have said that most of the blooms are on single stems. I even confuse myself sometimes! :-)
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Mine survived a winter that was pretty much 6b. Not only did it survive; it had very little die-back (no protection except sheltered from wind), when most of my roses died nearly to the ground. I love this rose a lot, as both bush and bloom are beautiful, and it blooms prolifically. It self-cleans if deadheading is neglected.
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This rose behaves better in a dry climate; It's a bad baller in rain or a wet climate!
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