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'Charles de Mills' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 129-995
most recent 7 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 7 DEC 21 by Unregistered Guest
Available from - High Country Roses
Discussion id : 129-055
most recent 16 SEP 21 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 14 SEP 21 by Le_Not
Available from - Fedco Trees
Reply #1 of 2 posted 16 SEP 21 by jedmar
Not on the website of Fedco Trees. Can you ask them to register their nursery on HMF and add their plants?
Reply #2 of 2 posted 16 SEP 21 by Le_Not
Rats -- they JUST changed it! (And I was hoping to buy this and several other now-discontinued roses from them, too...) In any case; yes, I'll email them and suggest they register on HMF.
Discussion id : 128-504
most recent 28 JUL 21 SHOW ALL
Initial post 16 JUL 21 by CybeRose
I am baffled by references to bronze or orange shadings in this variety. Could there have been another variety of the same, or similar, name?

By the way, the 'Charles de Mills' I remember from Kansas was small and rather unhappy, and very much a Gallica. But the plant growing at the Heritage Garden in San Jose looks more like a Hybrid China ... or a once-blooming version of something David Austin would have raised.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 17 JUL 21 by jedmar
Yes, strange. Nietner's description is a German translation of Baudriller's 1880 catalogue. Singer in 1885 then must have taken these for his Dictionnaire. I feel that CdM was lost for about 50 years until the 20th century. Orange-red as a colour description is also strange - there are no orange-reds at all in the 19th century. This colour appeared with the Pernetianas. So, what did rouge orangé or orangeroth mean in 1880?
Reply #2 of 2 posted 28 JUL 21 by CybeRose
The varieties listed under 'Charles de Mills' that have "orange" or "bronze" in the name or description are mostly described as striped or streaked.

William Paul (1848) set up a new class he called Hybrid French. Some of these had some yellow in them. 'Emérence' is one example.

'Commandant Beaurepaire' has streaks and stripes of pink, rose, lilac etc.

A rose that combined coloring something like 'Commandant Beaurepaire' superimposed on the cream and yellow of 'Emérence' might come close to some of the descriptions. If we squint a bit and think happy orange thoughts.
Discussion id : 124-746
most recent 3 JAN 21 SHOW ALL
Initial post 30 DEC 20 by MsMagsMn-4b/5a
An absolute stunner - mine is in a boulevard in a city setting, and it has absolutely exploded. I remove 1/3 every year and it grows like crazy. The foliage is super healthy and the blooms stop people in their tracks.

I do nothing to winter-protect it and haven't lost a single cane to a Minnesota winter. It does sucker somewhat but nothing unmanageable.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 3 JAN 21 by MsMagsMn-4b/5a
Yeah, I've seen a little of that - sometimes I have to trim it back a bit from the sidewalk, and it seems to send new growth up along that edge of the cement. I'm always just amazed how it leafs out every year to the very tip of the canes - it has suffered no dieback whatsoever, which is just incredible.

And yes, the The form is just incredible. I need to get some of my pics up here, ha.
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