Although this is a really old post, I'd like to know this too. My bush Devoniensis barely grew and died, but I loved it and would consider the climber. Also has anyone had experience of propagating from the flowered shoots of the climber, as mentioned in the 1865 reference, in respect to it reverting to the bush form?
Hmm, I might try the bush again and just push it along. Incidentally, if cuttings were taken from flowering stems of Cl Devoniensis and reverted to the bush, would they likely be repeating like the bush, or just spring flowering like the climber?
Sorry, I don't know. But you might like to read the 2013 comments for 'Climbing Devoniensis'. I am sure my climber flowers more than just spring only, but at the moment can't justify that statement.
I posted in April a photo of Patricia's Cl Devoniensis flowering cheerfully, but that's misleading - I would have been there in wildflower season. Will keep trying to find the original..
Journal of Horticulture and Practical Gardening, 9(237): 94 (Aug 1, 1865)
CLIMBING DEVONIENSIS ROSE. Mr. Rivers states, "This was originated from budding a strong-growing shoot, what is called a ' sport,' and thus continuing the inclination to a vigorous habit. Such sports are not uncommon with Roses; the climbing Géant des Batailles, and the climbing Aimee Vibert, are Roses in point. The climbing Devoniensis reverts to its normal condition if buds or cuttings are taken from the blooming shoots.
The Journal of Horticulture, Cottage Gardener, and Country Gentleman pp. 152-153 (Feb 21, 1865) CLIMBING DEVONIENSIS ROSE. S. J. Pavitt, Rose Cottage, Bathwick, Bath. Having read in your Journal of a climbing Devoniensis Rose sent out by Mr. Curtis, of Torquay, it may be interesting to your readers to know the true history of its origin. In the year 1857 I budded some of the old Devoniensis on the Celine stock, when on the following year many of the plants made shoots from 3 feet to 9 feet in length. I have now in my stock one of the original plants I obtain my buds from, it having withstood the severe winter of 1860-61. Many of your readers will be inclined to think there are two varieties of this magnificent Rose. This I beg to contradict, having supplied Mr. Curtis with buds as well as plants.
Per the paper linked below (in Table 4, beginning on the paper's page 28), this rose is triploid. I am cross-posting this comment on all others mentioned which do not already have their ploidies mentioned in their descriptions.
If 'Cl. Devoniensis' is really triploid, then it cannot be a sport of 'Devoniensis' which is diploid. Very often 'Cl. Souvenir de Malmaison' is sold as 'Cl. Devoniensis'. I assume that the incorrect rose was tested in the study.
Sorry for the VERY late reply (I just stumbled upon this again today). I see your point, and re-read the paper. Their 'Climbing Devoniensis' came from Antique Rose Emporium'. Their description for the rose is as follows:
"Wesley and Blanche Carroll of Slidell, LA shared this rose with us which we initially marketed as "Celie’s Slidell Pink Tea." After years of observing this rose and consulting with other experts in the industry, we feel this rose is ‘Climbing Devoniensis.’ You can’t help but fall under the spell of this moderate climber. The pink buds open to double blooms of creamy white with a tinge of apricot and contain a rich Tea scent. Our research indicates that this rose was also known as "The Magnolia Rose" probably because of its fruity fragrance. This climber, once established will bloom spring and fall."
This indicates that their plant originated as a foundling, so it is possible that it was wrongly identified.
