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Discussion id : 169-114
most recent 21 NOV HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 NOV by HubertG
The date of introduction should be pushed back from the current 1930 to at least before 1926 as there are gardening notes recommending it in the Brisbane newspapers in 1927 and May 1926, in which it sounds like it's a tried and tested rose. I wouldn't be surprised, given the name, if its introduction actually dates to around the time of World War One.

Just editing to add this:-

Maybe I'm suggesting the obvious, but is it possible that the Queensland-bred pale pink polyantha 'The Allies' attributed 1930 to Heers and the Queensland-bred pale pink polyantha 'Our Allies' from 1915 by W. J. Mathews are in fact the same rose? Its early attribution to Heers is only from foreign sources. 'Our Allies' appears in Heers' 1939 catalogue as "Our Allies 1915" "a Queensland variety of great merit", and Heers mentions 'Our Allies' as one of the most popular polyanthas in the 1943 Australian Rose Annual reference. Even if they are distinct roses and say Heers got a sport from Matthews' 'Our Allies', why would he then introduce it with a name which would so easily be confused with a well-known popular rose?

It needs looking into but I'm thinking that these two are possibly conflated.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 21 NOV by Margaret Furness
Alas, similarity to the name of an existing rose - or complete overlap - doesn't stop modern companies from using a name.
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Discussion id : 169-081
most recent 17 NOV HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 NOV by Margaret Furness
Available from Leonie Kearney Heritage Roses, Samsonvale, Queensland.
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Discussion id : 46-624
most recent 10 JUL 10 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 JUL 10 by Margaret Furness
In the Adelaide Botanical Gardens, South Australia.
I've asked them previously to list their plants on hmf, but they're desperately short-staffed; our State government thinks it's OK to slash funding to the various Botanical Gardens, while spending millions on a football oval.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 10 JUL 10 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Margaret. You have advised that Golden Vale Nursery can not supply this rose. It sounds as though someone....... might volunteer some pruning help at the Adelaide Botanical Garden. About an hour might do it.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 10 JUL 10 by Margaret Furness
Alas it's already been pruned, but someone did pick up a couple of days-old prunings from underneath Miss Australia... (David's plant has died.)
I've asked Tina at Mt Lofty BG to grow The Allies for us.
Later comment; the cuttings underneath a plant don't necessarily come from it.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 10 JUL 10 by Patricia Routley
God bless someone. And you too.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 10 JUL 10 by RoseBlush
Margaret........

Do they have a computer listing of their roses ? If so, we can convert it to a cvs file and upload it for them. We don't make this offer often, but in this case, it sounds like they could use the help.

Smiles,
Lyn
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