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'Suntan' rose Reviews & Comments
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Paris and Maney (The Prodigious Ophelia Rose, Trans. Iowa. Hort. Soc., 75: 268-277. (1940) list the seed parent of 'Suntan' as (Nanjemoy x [Mme. Gregoire Stachelin x Bloomfield Comet]).
Pollen parent, Mrs. Pierre S. du Pont.
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Basically the same as Modern Roses II (1940) and III (1947) , but at least Paris and Maney clarified the seed parent. I don’t know why the seed parent was later altered in Modern Roses IV (1952) back to just 'Nanjemoy'. We’ve noted the discrepancy.
Thanks Karl.
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26 MAY 15 by
CybeRose
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Patricia,
Could this involve another misreading?
Nanjemoy is Mme. Gregoire Staechelin x Bloomfield Comet.
Would Hansen have repeated the cross, crossed a seedling with 'Mrs. Pierre S. du Pont', than crossed a seedling from the latter cross with 'Nanjemoy'?
Maybe the original statement (where?) was: Nanjemoy (Mme. Gregoire Staechelin x Bloomfield Comet) x Mrs. Pierre S. du Pont. Later, someone could have inserted "x" after Nanjemoy, making the ancestry seem more complicated than it was.
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To put the "extinct" ruling in perspective, as the International Registry Authority for Roses, the ARS would be petitioned to permit reuse of rose names. If a search for the original rose using the name proved unsuccessful in the currently available catalogs, the rose was ruled "extinct" and the name released for reuse. As we've seen countless times, many which were "believed extinct", have resurfaced and returned to commerce from specialty growers such as Vintage Gardens. Who knows what "found rose" this might be masquerading as?
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True. Who knows. But thank heavens they have resurfaced.
I can’t see any difference between the following two classifications of availability and believe HelpMeFind could perhaps delete one of them.
Existence Unknown.
Believed extinct or lost
I once put forward a thought that perhaps if a rose hasn’t been heard of for 30 years, then it was a gone-er, but I think I was too hasty there.
Perhaps it might be a good wet day job to look at the foundlings to see if anybody recognizes anything.
Try Advanced Search > Class > Other > Found Rose > Origin > All countries {your country]
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