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"Hampton Street Pink" rose Reviews & Comments
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8 MAR 19 by
 Patricia Routley
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Someone has asked me privately about this rose.
I am coming away from my earlier thought that it may be of the thornless ‘Columbia’ family. Although “Hampton Street Pink” is thornless, the stipule has tiny thin, wide-spreading tips. The stipule is more narrow than a couple of my Columbia roses, ie. “Clover Store” and Sheila Gravett’s ‘Briarcliff’ - those stipules are wider. I had wondered for a while if it could be ‘Lady Sylvia’ 1925 which was a sport of ‘Ophelia’. ‘Lady Sylvia’ seems to have a fair bit of yellow in the base and I did note in 2004 “Hampton Street Pink” did have yellow there. However, I have not noted this yellow base since. The question arises in my mind, does the ‘Ophelia’ family stipule have these tiny ….auricles?
I have also discounted an earlier thought of ‘Mildred Grant’ 1901 as that rose does not seem to have had as many petals as the foundling.
I am also pleased to report that a cutting-grown “Lauren's Gifford Rd. Pink-Apricot Cl. HT” which I thought was the same as “Hampton Street Pink” , has resprouted this year after some years underground. Needless to say it now has a mulch of Lucerne hay and sheep manure and water. It is only about 20cm (8 inches) high at this stage but I am overjoyed it is still alive. I will open a file for it and add every photo I have in case they will help with the identification of “Hampton Street Pink”.
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#1 of 1 posted
8 MAR 19 by
Ozoldroser
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13 JAN 18 by
Patricia Routley
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Margaret, on Jan 22, 2015 I sent over for the National Heritage Rose Collection in Renmark, cuttings of "Hampton Street Pink". Later that year on Sep 1, 2015 you advised that four budded plants were successful. Do you know what happened to those four plants?
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#1 of 5 posted
13 JAN 18 by
Margaret Furness
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One was planted at D 83 in the North bed of the HRIAI Collection at Renmark. One was included among the early HTs that were destined for the OPH garden in Canberra, but that project didn't eventuate; Steve planted the survivors into the ground at his nursery. The others were given either to bushfire survivors or HRIAi members, but I didn't keep records.
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#2 of 5 posted
13 JAN 18 by
Patricia Routley
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It seems nobody has kept records!
You did not include Provenance in your listings of the Renmark Collection, but at least you did list the old roses (which were contributed by Heritage Roses in Australia members all over Australia) and where they were. As far as I can see, your listings have been deleted from the HRiA website.
In Steve Beck's listing (requested and received by me Jan 12, 2018) of old roses from the Renmark Collection destined for public gardens around Australia, again, no provenance is shown. I am disgusted. On the HRiA website, there are only a brief couple of lines advising that "Our rose collection can now be seen in Queensland."
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13 JAN 18 by
Margaret Furness
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The listing at Renmark is still on the website, it just takes a bit of finding. http://heritage.rose.org.au/hriai-tea-noisette-china-collection (bottom right of the home page, under More Roses Info).
Roses sent by HRIAI to the Newtown Park garden in Toowoomba were largely from budwood obtained by John N from about 100 of the roses in the HRIAI Collection at Renmark; which clearly does not duplicate all of the HRIAI Collection.
I do have records of the provenance of roses in the HRIAI Collections, but don't make them accessible to the general public. That is by the request of some of the donors, who are concerned about the potential for being pestered by plant-hunters and the theft of parent plants - as we believe happened at Blakiston after Trevor Nottle's book was published, and unquestionably happens at Rookwood. For example, before Trevor's book mentioned Blakiston and the "Octavus Weld" tea, there were five roses on the Octavus Weld grave. A few years later there was only one. If you want the provenance list I can send it to you, on condition that you don't make it public.
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14 JAN 18 by
Patricia Routley
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Thank you for that Margaret. I am very pleased your listings are still on the website. I thought I did a fair bit of searching yesterday, but apparently didn't search enough.
And thank you for the offer of the provenance list. But no thanks as I would be delighted to make it public. I strongly believe in showing the provenance and perhaps Steve did not list any provenances because they simply were not available.
(I would love to be pestered by plant-hunters wanting to grow my old roses and I thought that was what it was all about.)
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14 JAN 18 by
Margaret Furness
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The donors who asked for their privacy or plantings to be respected weren't HRIAI members. I imagine they thought they'd done enough, in allowing their rose/s to be duplicated at Renmark, from where HRIAI members could take cuttings, or the general public order budded plants via specialist nurseries.
I put the provenance list on the HRIAI hard-drive when I handed it over to the next Journal editor, with a note that it wasn't to be made public without first discussing it with me.
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13 MAY 17 by
Patricia Routley
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"Hampton Street Pink" is among some of the lovelier hybrid teas I have found and grown on their own roots.
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