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    'Morning Star' rose Reviews & Comments
    most recent 19 APR 22  
    RoseMorningstar Estate
    Initial post 13 APR 22 by Patricia Routley
    Thank you Jedmar for adding ‘Morningstar Estate’ 2004 today. Looking at some dates:
    2004 John Nieuwesteeg planted a hip from his property.
    2008. The Heritage Rose Conference was held at Judy Barrett’s property.
    2009 Judy Barrett applies for a patent for a rose named ‘Morningstar Estate’
    2010. Patent accepted.
    2013. Steve Beck at Roses and Friends is selling a rose named ‘Morning Star’.

    I think ‘Morning Star’ should be merged into ‘Morningstar Estate’ and listed as a synonym.
    Reply #1 posted 13 APR 22 by jedmar
    I suspect as much, but there was no definite proof. Can Steve Beck be asked if patent AU4849P belongs to Morning Star?
    Reply #2 posted 14 APR 22 by Patricia Routley
    Done. Also emailed John so between the two we should be able to get an answer.
    Reply #3 posted 15 APR 22 by Patricia Routley
    Nope. No answer from neither. Both roses are Noted as possibly identical.
    Reply #4 posted 15 APR 22 by Margaret Furness
    Email is a foreign country to John.
    Reply #5 posted 15 APR 22 by Patricia Routley
    Well, with any luck, maybe a Victorian member who loves truth and clarity will ring John and report back to us so that we may either merge the files, or keep separate.
    Reply #6 posted 19 APR 22 by Patricia Routley
    I rang John myself. He reports that ‘Morning Star’ and ‘Morningstar Estate’ are the same rose. Merged the two files.