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How tall did this one get? I hear reports of 8 ft From some.
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was on its own roots, which I do not recommend for this rose. It eventually died. Never got tall, or healthy for that matter.
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Ouch. Just got one own root. It was on sale at least. Thanks for sharing. I won't get so excited about it getting huge. How do you evaluate what is better budded vs own root?
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As a VERY general rule, roses that were bred by commercial growers between about the fifties and the nineties were bred to be grown grafted, so no one ever tested them own root, and those tests, done belatedly now, do not usually favor the selected varieties for growing on their own roots. Towards the late nineties through the present, most selection criteria by breeders include whether the variety grows well as an own root, and therefore most of these later roses do fine that way. The exception to that is very unusual colors, which sometimes fail the own root test and get selected anyway, with the distributor knowing they must be sold grafted.
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If a grafted rose is planted as reccomended, with the graft union well below the soil level the scion will eventually form its own root system. Therefore, won't all grafted roses eventually become own root in the end?
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nope, some do, some don't do that.
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I don't have much experience with own root roses (only ones I took from cuttings myself), they are not half so popular here as in The States. I don't know of a single nursery in the U.K. that specialises in them.
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As Rosaholic stated the industry here has gradually been headed this direction for some time.
They are becoming quite common here in the U.S. Some varieties are much more successful own-root than others.
As time goes by we will see more and more selection for own-root production. There are many reasons why but economics are a driving factor. The labor needed to create budded cultivars is becoming harder to source and labor costs are rising rapidly.
Root stocks can sometimes produce superior specimens rapidly are also problematic in a variety of ways.
My most successful variety over here so far is produced 90% on it's own root. I feel it's actually a superior product when grown this way. Most of the other newest cultivars I have to be introduced will also be own-root.
It used to be the least expensive roses were offered here budded but I have a feeling in an short while budded roses will be offered primarily as a premium specialty product.
We already have a number of specialty growers offering these products especially for exhibition. Generally they cost more.
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I think compensation claims for back injuries to budders are part of the equation.
In essence, I won't grow own-root (or plant with the bud union in the soil or mulch) any rose that will sucker, which includes species roses, rugosas, most spring-only roses except ramblers.
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Then there's that!
Yes, many roses sucker but that characteristic will no doubt be selected against going forward.
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