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'Red Pinocchio' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 88-825
most recent 23 OCT 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 23 OCT 15 by Michael Garhart
So, a neighbor has this red rose, that has a damask tint, and is fragrant. I could not ID it, but thought it may have been something from 'Cuthbert Grant'. Nothing matched. He gave me some blooms, and resulting seedlings from the pollen were definite floribundas. Reds. Purples. And... pastel pink-yellows?!?

I cross-referenced it with miniatures, minifloras, and the like "just in case." No matches. And then it struck me. I had only ever seen 'Red Pinocchio' as virused garbage, sold in decrepit bargain bins. What does it look like when grown properly, and does the foliage match? Bingo. And the scent. Its authentically fragrant. Fragrance is damask type. The plant size matches the original 'Pinocchio' too. Actually, its not a a bad little rose. How my neighbor got that rose is beyond me. It was there when he moved in.
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Discussion id : 10-928
most recent 20 JAN 06 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 JAN 06 by selkie_B
I inherited this from my father's old garden (which was in WA state) and I now live in Minnesota (zone 4). This year it is getting moved into a raised bed as it is VERY fragile here where it was exceptionally vigerous in WA. I have to bury in mulch and leaves every winter and cosset it constantly for a few under-sized blooms. Definately correctly labled as zone 6, but I deeply love this rose!
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 20 JAN 06 by Unregistered Guest
Raised beds in Minnesota are not a good thing. They freeze completely. The only way to insure a constant temperature is to have the rose at ground level with the bud union buried 2 to 6 inches below the surface. I generally hill up the base of the rose with 10 - 12 inches of dirt, then 12 - 18 inches of leaves, then place leaf bags full of leaves around and on top of the loose leafs. I am experimenting this winter with cement blankets to find out if they give enough insulation to get a rose through winter, although this winter is not typical of how cold normal winters are. If the rose means as much to you as it seems, the extra work it takes won't hopefully be too hard a burden on you. I have 18 feet tall ramblers I cover with the leaves and leaf bags every year. You can get your rose to grow to its full potential if you keep it covered (protected) through the winter even though we are in zone 4.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 20 JAN 06 by selkie_B
ALL of my garden beds are raised beds - and have been for years (were here when we moved in) and with a bit of mulch they are fine :) The reason I'd be moving this rose into the raised bed would be for earlier warming in spring which it DESPERATELY needs - it will be fully buried every winter (as it has been the past 5). I ring this one with chicken wire, bury it with compost, then fill the wire with leaves. Brings it through, but takes FOREVER to get going in spring so the raised bed is for additional early warmth towards the roots. I baby this baby anyway, so if anything seemed amiss (like a late re-freeze) It'd be buried up again in a hurry.

Thanks though for your input!
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