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Rose Listing Omission
Helen Bamber
Bred by Colin Horner and introduced by Peter Beales Roses, Helen Bamber is a shrub rose with flowers that are a biscuit colour with pink overtones that are fragrant. it's foliage is dark green. It was named after the founder of The Helen Bamber Foundation, a charity that supports 'Victims of Torture World Wide'. 10% of its sales, for the first three years of it's introduction, went to The Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture, which had been founded in 1985.
Ref. The Peter Beales 30th Anniversary Classic Roses Catalogue, 2005-06
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jedmar
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Seedling from 'Louise Odier' (see Florist and Pomologist, 1868, p. 251).
The J. Sieckmann catalog of 1886 has it as coming from Pradel, 1865, which is not out of the question, as Pradel was indeed releasing a series of Bourbons in those years; and so, if not established sufficiently enough to warrant a change in attribution, this is at least worthy of a footnote.
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4 days ago by
jedmar
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We added the reference and a note. Sieckmann seems to have been more a specialist of dahlias than roses.
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Ascription of a Bourbon of this name and color and time to Avoux & Crozy is looking to me more and more like an error for a Passiflora of this name and color and time which was indeed exhibited and introduced by Avoux & Crozy (see Horticulteur Français, 1855, p. 260). The white-to-blush rose appears to be not to be a Bourbon but rather Oger's HP of this name and color and just a few years later (see for instance Illustration Horticole, vol. 6, 1859, pp. 289-290).
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4 days ago by
jedmar
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Agreed. There is no mention of a rose by this name by Avoux & Crozy before 1885. We are merging the listings.
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How do you recommend siting this rose? One person suggests a fence, but that isn't an option for me. Any other suggestions?
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I have 'Red Blush', which so far, 2nd year, hasn't grown much at all. You could try it in a pot and see how fast it wants to grow. 'Hamburger Phoenix' also takes 3-4 years to become a climber, before that it was a spreading floribunda. I have not found 'Maiden's Blush' to be a fast grower either, nothing like the semiplena sport family which take off running.
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5 days ago by
jedmar
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'Morning Blush' grew into a very large shrub resp. climber in our garden. I think it would dislocate the fence. See photos
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