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jedmar 
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It is Espresso SPEbrown/ SPEkbrown
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#1 of 1 posted
4 days ago by
jedmar
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Thank you! Listings merged.
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Rose Listing Omission
Havanna
https://www.obi.ch/fr/rosiers-tapissants/grow-by-obi-rosier-havanna-rosa-hybride-pot-6-l-h-60-80-cm/p/5725338
https://www.promessedefleurs.com/rosiers/rosiers-de-a-a-z/rosier-arbustif-havanna.html
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#1 of 1 posted
5 days ago by
jedmar
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Added, thank you! Is there a breeder code on the label?
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PhotoDiscussion id : 154-241
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Either the photo is incorrect, or the description is.
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5 days ago by
jedmar
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This is Jenny Duval. The same photo is posted there.
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Is the ploidy of this rose known?
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#1 of 3 posted
5 days ago by
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Modern Roses V states it is triploid, however, I have a feeling that the ploidy numbers in this catalogue were just assigned, not measured.
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Thanks Jedmar - I don't have Modern Roses (being an old-rose grower), and didn't know it stated ploidies.
I wondered if Elie B were triploid, as there are 5 developing hips on it: one hand-pollinated with pollen from Lady Hillingdon, which is 1.5m away. I'll wait till they ripen before checking for seeds.
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#3 of 3 posted
5 days ago by
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Only Modern Roses V had ploidies. That information was dropped later.
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