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Initial post 24 JAN 22 by Margaret Furness
What a fool of a name to give it. Confusing for novices who may think it's Quatre Saisons.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 24 JAN 22 by Palustris
As we used to say in my computer marketing days: that's not a bug, it's a feature.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 6 days ago by Huyustus
A little history... The name of this rose is a reference to the work of Antonio Vivaldi.
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most recent 27 JUN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 JUN by Jay-Jay
This-one doesn't match Aloha either! Nor does it look like a climber either on this photo.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 27 JUN by Palustris
Definitely not 'Aloha.'
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most recent 27 MAR 23 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 1 MAR 23 by Margaret Furness
The current owners tell me their family have grown it since 1942. The flowers are 3-5cm in diameter. They don't think it's scented, which argues against Lady Gay as an ID.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 2 MAR 23 by Patricia Routley
Some people can smell roses. Others (like me) can’t.

There are two ‘Lady Gay’ roses listed in HelpMeFind.
Lady Gay (hybrid wichurana, Walsh, 1903) (Rosa wichuraiana Crép. synonym × Bardou Job)
Lady Gay (hybrid multiflora, Geschwind, 1905) (seedling of Crimson Rambler × Unknown)

Walsh’s rose is likely to be fragrant, because ‘Bardou Job’ was fragrant.
Geschwind’s rose is likely to not be fragrant, because Turner’s ‘Crimson Rambler’ wasn’t.

Despite Geschwind’s rose being classified as multiflora, (as is ‘Turner’s ‘Crimson Rambler’)
if the pollen parent of Geschwind’s rose was R. wichurana, the resulting offspring might look a wich as does
‘Evangeline’ and ‘Excelsa’. I wish we knew more about Geschwind’s ‘Lady Gay’.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 6 MAR 23 by Palustris
Yes, it is true: we do not all detect fragrance in the same way. I can't detect China rose scent, but can detect the scent of most OGRs with a "damask" scent. I don't remember scent on 'Lady Gay', but it won't flower for another four months for me so can't check. I lost my own LG but know a big hedge of it an hour away. The Walsh roses that have scent that carries in the air are 'Evangeline' and 'Nokomis'.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 27 MAR 23 by Patricia Routley
Margaret, I feel sure you have said somewhere (?private email) that “Loveday” is prickly.
Johno has sent me a 1969 Sedunarys Upper Murray Nursery catalogue. This nursery was at Loveday S.A. They listed ‘Pinkie Climbing’ which apparently is thornless.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 27 MAR 23 by Margaret Furness
Yes wich-prickly: and once-flowering, so it's not Cl Pinkie.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 27 MAR 23 by Patricia Routley
Thanks.
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most recent 8 MAR 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 MAR 23 by Jonathan Windham
Does anyone know the parentage of 'Bella Nitida'? Or have any way to ask the breeder? It looks very similar to 'Métis', even though they were introduced 33 years apart.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 8 MAR 23 by Palustris
Even the foliage looks identical to 'Metis'. I was lucky enough to get several seedlings from 'Metis' that look quite similar. Maybe it is a 'Metis' seedling.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 8 MAR 23 by Jonathan Windham
Very possible! Thank you for your input.
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