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Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
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Received as a liner, and moved to a 2 gallon pot. Now third growing season, and about to put it into the ground. It grew nicely to 4’ the first year. Second year, grew just 2 feet more after pruning back to 3 feet, so it’s now back to 5 feet, but with a huge root ball crammed into a 4 gallon pot.
First medium sized flush this spring around mid-March. Bloomed the second spring with a small flush, then two very small flushes later in the year, June, then September.
Fragrance is very interesting. In spring, it resembles candied cherries. The later flushes presents more of a spice, almost sweet licorice fragrance. I never picked up the myrrh in this, but I certainly know that fragrance as I have many DA roses with this strong note.
Completely BS free here in rainy Hawaii. Seems heat resistant and humidity resistant in our summertime.
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After a three-year assessment, I would finally like to offer an overall observation of this plant. CSK has been growing in a no-spray garden for the last 3 years and 7 months. Though it has been growing at a slow pace and throwing out new canes on occasion, it seems to also do the same with 2-3 flowers here and there. It doesn't tend to have an overabundance of problems with BS, though it's not free from it by any means. It does tend to hold its foliage longer than many, and that might be part of the reason. However, CSK does have a huge problem with Mildew on the canes, and does not seem to subside or grow out of it. Though the plant is now well-established, it does not seem to win the battle completely.
As far as the flowers, it seems to have a nice fragrance. I would call it a solid moderate. It's definitely present. Nice combination, not overly sweet, spicy, or anything. Just a blurred balance. The bud stays closed for an entire day here, and that is less common in a HT, because of our warm climate. It also seems to appreciate a little afternoon shade. The petals don't shatter fast (3 days full), and that is a bonus.
It definitely redlines on being one of the closest to shovel pruning, and if I only had a limited space, I certainly wouldn't keep it. However, it will remain. Though it reminds me that some roses just do better if sprayed. It certainly doesn't belong in a no-spray garden, if you have any level of humidity or rain.
Alternatives: IF you're looking for a similarly growing multicolor and fragrant HT with a bit more disease resistance, then I would suggest Sheila's Perfume, which has a delightful more powerful fragrance, more flowers, yet is very healthy in all respects, does excellent in a No-spray environment, and even tolerates a little more sun and heat than CSK.
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Wow, would that we could get more HMF members to share their experience in such wonderful detail. Thank you for your participation.
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I appreciate that. This is the kind of content I would like to read about on other roses as well. Good karma :)
Also, I only will make a thorough assessment as this after giving it the ability to adjust and grow naturally. All too often, they will become completely different plants after they have settled in and adapted to nature outside of commercial greenhouse culture, where it's likely not growing in realistic conditions to an everyday collector or gardener. I believe all of this allows me to deliver a much more accurate summary.
I also encourage all of my plants to go Own Root, as my own experience has shown to improve the overall health and give it more tolerance to rain and BS. :)
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I went back to Brigadoon. Since almost all in this color range seem to (sadly) get BS, I went back to the one with the most boom'. I had hoped a Gemini type would come along by now, but that never happened. Kordes released a rose call Color Splash, which is similar to CSK, except more flori-shrub, but its also a lot of plant with only moderate bloom.
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After a 2 year evaluation I can say this is one fussy plant!
I’ll soon be giving it away or shovel pruning it.
For the few good quality blooms it DOES have, they are small, and not at all long or firm stemmed enough to put them with other roses or into a standing vase. Because this has miniature genetics, it acts the same way in a vase. Perhaps a single bud vase would be okay. I just don’t know how this could ever be considered a Florist Rose, unless it’s used in a corsage like a gardenia.
It has a lot of problems with mildew, the flowers get spotted during rainfall, and the bottom of the bush is naked when it’s summertime. It grows very awkward, as if it can’t figure out whether it’s a miniature or a climber. Lastly, there is zero fragrance.
Great for a conversation piece, but as a Frankenstein, it looks incredibly out of place next to other roses.
It’s been in the ground 2 years, and has grown to be only 14” tall. Other roses eclipse it, and you have to be able to put it into a place where there are no other standards around, or it will drop its leaves and turn yellow, because of living in their shadows.
My recommendation would be to get Alfred Sisley or George Burns, and you’ll have a nice FRAGRANT flower, combined with a very nice forming bush of good stature. I’d pass this one up, unless you only grow miniatures, and you don’t mind them awkward, and underperforming.
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I've posted about this release in my journal for anyone who would be interested. :)
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3 MAR 23 by
 johnm99
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Would be happy to view your journal.
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