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Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
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Initial post 17 DEC 18 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
Beautifully formed open form with pointed tip petals. Quick to open but holds fully open for 3 days in moderate heat. Rain resistant. Short stiff necks don't nod or break even in heavy rains. Compact bush, heavily branches, short pedicels give the whole bush a very tidy appearance. Stays compact to 3 feet tall x 2 feet wide. Bloom size large: 4 to 4 1/2". Petals do not tend to reflex and stay separated, which gives the flower a rounded "pine cone" effect.

Moderate fragrance of apple/vanilla/strawberry and a note of freesia, becoming stronger in cooler weather and burns out by early afternoon if weather is very warm.

Petals do not easily burn, but it looks more delicate than it's brawn. Definitely fights off Black Spot fairly well, however does get some when shaded. Does best in Full sun with later afternoon shading. Prefers high humidity and 6 hours direct sun.

Edge color deepens to an almost wine/purple hue with a well-suited pH. Lighter pink in poor soil.

EDIT: Added 8/26/19: After the 4th year of stabilizing and feeding Miss C, I can say that the frequency of flushes and size/form of the flowers just keep getting better and better. It also has improved with a stronger fragrance of more spicy tones and more green apple and pear notes. I would call the fragrance a "Firm Moderate".
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 11 days ago by Michael Garhart
Also, no canker on the winter canes here. And unlike Moonstone, doesn't throw up blind shoots or open incorrectly. It does not have a lot of prickles, as well. I like that its margin is a wine-tone and ever-present. It really separates it from other picotees.
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Initial post 27 MAY 20 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
What a pleasure to have this one. It has beautiful disease-free glossy foliage, holds well to the plant and never defoliates in hot weather. Not at all bothered by rain or bad weather. Buds stay full for an extended period of time. They don’t shatter for 5 days, so the bush can end up filled with half open and fully open blooms at the same time. It has a nice form and naturally spreads out yet with stiff, fat canes, so as to not overcrowd or cross branches. Stays relatively stout, never achieving over 4’ tall here, and they tend to grow extra large in Hawaii.

Wonderfully abundant in flowers, it surprises every year as it will spit out random flowers every blooming month for me, which is just about every month except January. Fragrance is a combination of damask, raspberry, and a hint of cinnamon, which is apropos for this particular color, imho.

I would highly recommend this for the novice gardener and the pro alike, especially if you’re like me and do not spray. Just keep it fed, and it will supply abundant fragrant richly red, well formed and well-fragranced blossoms throughout the growing seasons. There is absolutely nothing bad I could say about this 5 Star Winner! ...except that it’s a must-have if you love red and love easy!
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 31 AUG 21 by anonymous_member
Thank you for your review on the Sweet Spirit. I am in 9b and just had a very humid and blazing hot Summer. Most of my roses didn't perform as well as they did. I am in search for some really heat tolerant roses whose color and fragrance don't fade in hot temperature and are relatively healthy and easy to care for. Based on your review, Sweet Spirit sounds like a good candidate, and I will get one this coming Fall.
Since you are located in 11b, do you have some recommendations of nice heat tolerant roses similar to Sweet Spirit? Thank you in advance for your opinion.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 7 FEB 22 by kgs
I have to say all the reports about Sweet Spirit being disease-free surprise me, because last year (my first with this plant) it had really bad rust--in a garden of close to 30 bushes where other roses either had no rust or in one or two cases had a tiny amount I was able to eradicate by removing leaves. (I had never seen rust in my garden before, and I wonder if Sweet Spirit became a vector.) I am giving it a second chance because I was not good about any preventative treatment the previous winter and spring (cleaning up leaves, dormant spray, copper spray, etc.). But this year I'm back to good habits, and I'm giving this bush extra attention. If Sweet Spirit turns into a rust bucket again, out it goes. It stayed small and my guess is the extent of disease played a role in that. I'm not disbelieving the folks who have had good luck with this rose--no two plants are ever identical, and who knows what mutations might be at work. It definitely is Sweet Spirit and the handful of blooms it produced once the rust went away were lovely.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 26 JUL 22 by Kim Rupert
Try increasing the water to the plant. It is often VERY easy to induce roses to mildew and rust by water stressing them.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 26 JUL 22 by Kathy Strong
YES!
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 13 FEB by kgs
Belated reply, but after battling rust again in 2023, despite spraying and whatnot, in early spring 2024 I sprayed Sweet Spirit once with copper and never saw rust again. I appreciate the guidance about water, but I suspect it was just "going through a phase" and then outgrew being prone to rust, as I water even during our short winters. It has stayed on the small side, but that is more likely to its location, and it has a nice "peeping" habit, as I call it, where perfectly formed blooms framed by glossy foliage poke through the picket fence to greet the neighbors.
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most recent 27 APR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 APR by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
Received as a liner, and moved to a 2 gallon pot. Now third growing season, and about to put it into the ground. It grew nicely to 4’ the first year. Second year, grew just 2 feet more after pruning back to 3 feet, so it’s now back to 5 feet, but with a huge root ball crammed into a 4 gallon pot.
First medium sized flush this spring around mid-March. Bloomed the second spring with a small flush, then two very small flushes later in the year, June, then September.
Fragrance is very interesting. In spring, it resembles candied cherries. The later flushes presents more of a spice, almost sweet licorice fragrance. I never picked up the myrrh in this, but I certainly know that fragrance as I have many DA roses with this strong note.
Completely BS free here in rainy Hawaii. Seems heat resistant and humidity resistant in our summertime.
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most recent 26 MAR 24 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 8 DEC 19 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
After a three-year assessment, I would finally like to offer an overall observation of this plant. CSK has been growing in a no-spray garden for the last 3 years and 7 months. Though it has been growing at a slow pace and throwing out new canes on occasion, it seems to also do the same with 2-3 flowers here and there. It doesn't tend to have an overabundance of problems with BS, though it's not free from it by any means. It does tend to hold its foliage longer than many, and that might be part of the reason. However, CSK does have a huge problem with Mildew on the canes, and does not seem to subside or grow out of it. Though the plant is now well-established, it does not seem to win the battle completely.

As far as the flowers, it seems to have a nice fragrance. I would call it a solid moderate. It's definitely present. Nice combination, not overly sweet, spicy, or anything. Just a blurred balance. The bud stays closed for an entire day here, and that is less common in a HT, because of our warm climate. It also seems to appreciate a little afternoon shade. The petals don't shatter fast (3 days full), and that is a bonus.

It definitely redlines on being one of the closest to shovel pruning, and if I only had a limited space, I certainly wouldn't keep it. However, it will remain. Though it reminds me that some roses just do better if sprayed. It certainly doesn't belong in a no-spray garden, if you have any level of humidity or rain.

Alternatives: IF you're looking for a similarly growing multicolor and fragrant HT with a bit more disease resistance, then I would suggest Sheila's Perfume, which has a delightful more powerful fragrance, more flowers, yet is very healthy in all respects, does excellent in a No-spray environment, and even tolerates a little more sun and heat than CSK.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 8 DEC 19 by HMF Admin
Wow, would that we could get more HMF members to share their experience in such wonderful detail. Thank you for your participation.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 8 DEC 19 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
I appreciate that. This is the kind of content I would like to read about on other roses as well. Good karma :)
Also, I only will make a thorough assessment as this after giving it the ability to adjust and grow naturally. All too often, they will become completely different plants after they have settled in and adapted to nature outside of commercial greenhouse culture, where it's likely not growing in realistic conditions to an everyday collector or gardener. I believe all of this allows me to deliver a much more accurate summary.
I also encourage all of my plants to go Own Root, as my own experience has shown to improve the overall health and give it more tolerance to rain and BS. :)
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 26 MAR 24 by Michael Garhart
I went back to Brigadoon. Since almost all in this color range seem to (sadly) get BS, I went back to the one with the most boom'. I had hoped a Gemini type would come along by now, but that never happened. Kordes released a rose call Color Splash, which is similar to CSK, except more flori-shrub, but its also a lot of plant with only moderate bloom.
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