HelpMeFind Roses, Clematis and Peonies
Roses, Clematis and Peonies
and everything gardening related.
Member
Profile
PhotosFavoritesCommentsJournalCuttings 
Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
most recent 21 DEC 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 21 JAN 22 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
If there was a such thing as a rose representing the story of The Tortoise and the Hare, that would be Lemon Spice.
What can I say about this which has not already been said?
First off, let's just say One Of A Kind Fragrance!. There's no other rose I've ever sniffed which has this delicious of a fragrance. It somehow transports me to places in my imagination, somewhere between Wonkaland, and a Citrus orchard in bloom. Sweet like bit o honey candy, spicy like an iced holiday cookie, yet powerful like jasmine and lemon flowers combined. That's just the tip of the iceberg for this little charmer.

The growth is slow and steady (Tortoise), so don't expect it to compete in a day at the racetrack. Patience is truly needed with this slow starter. Reminds me of a few others, and definitely like parent Signora. Once it takes off after three years of pampering it, then watch out! As long as you give it plenty of space, light, and nutritious soil, then it will begin. I've learned never to give up on them, because right about the time you're ready to throw in the towel, they begin to flourish and stun with the elements you get them for in the first place.

The overall growth seems to be incredibly restrained and optimal for those who have very limited spaces or want to grow on a patio rather than in-ground. However, that said, I planted mine directly into the ground in an area where I have hopes of it achieving it's maximum height, but at my own risk of course. It seems to be steady at about 18-22in. height at the moment, but I'm seeing that the canes don't age out fast, and the hopes of it being able to train as a tall shrub might be workable in the future with some coaxing. However, it may not be ideal for a cold climate where dieback will be eminent. This would surely need to be best grown in a place with no more than a small amount of intermittent chill. I would probably guess that it's best in Zone 8b or higher, just so that it won't suffer any dieback to give it the height it needs for it's sluggish growth.

That all being said, when it blooms, it will throw at random, and therefore seems like it doesn't go too long without at least one flower on the bush. It's probably not going to be a showstopper for it's size and appearance, but the fragrance is more than worth the lack of numbers.

Disease Resistance is iron clad, as far as I am concerned. Zero Spray and compost tea is the standard for all my roses. I've never seen any kind of disease on LS, where our annual rainfall is 120in. (there's at least one good rain every week), and average humidity steadily hovers around 60%. Many other roses succumb to this kind of environment. LS absolutely Thrives!

Lastly, the coloration of the flower is very nice. In full sun, it doesn't bleach out the yellow nearly as much as many other HT's like Eternal Flame, Midas Touch, Sunsprite, Golden Showers, and Michelangelo. It seems to be solid Buttery-to-Banana Yellow, with those unmistakable peach cheeks that truly set it's coloration apart and makes the plant set a signature look with the unique medium (tea sized) flowers.

I have yet to find any rose that could possibly even come close to filling the shoes of this MUST HAVE for me.
HIGHLY recommend Lemon Spice.
REPLY
Reply #1 of 1 posted 21 DEC 22 by Nola Z5a WI
I have to agree with you on Lemon Spice being a slow grower, but as you said the "fragrance", and beauty of bloom is the reason why I don't think about getting rid of it. My rose bought as a band in May 2018 (own root developed RMV shortly after arrival) has been planted in ground since 2019, 3 years now. Six months after it was planted It survived winter temperatures down to -26 degrees with mulch mounded for winter protection, and last winter with no winter protection with temperatures down to -19 degrees (I don't recommend not winter protecting it in my zone). It had dieback down to 6-12" in the spring 2022. I measured on Dec. 7, 2022 and it was 38"x22". I like this rose so much that I purchased 2 more own root roses to plant with it but in gallon containers this year.
REPLY
most recent 15 SEP 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 4 APR 19 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
This one has everything going for it. If you’re one for a good sturdy hybrid tea, with a powerhouse of fragrance that will TKO you when you walk in the door, this is your ticket. Heaven. From 1-10, I would rate the fragrance a 14. Though it’s so intense, you’ll either love or hate it. The fragrance is like a big vat of fresh sliced Pink Grapefruits, like 100 of them. It is Dee-Lish like you want to eat it, but the number of names given to this sweetheart of a rose is nothing short of ridiculous! That’s the one thing ONLY I can say bad about this rose. Its a HT lover’s dream. Fights off BS and mildew like an angry truckdriver. Robust and vigorous upright grower, it’s fragrance defies the need to put it in the back. This one BEGS to be front and center. Even by the front door so you and your guests can enjoy and appreciate it’s unforgettable fragrance. The bees never stop trying to pollinate it. I’ve seen them even landing on the shattered petals on the ground.

I acquired it some time ago as Sweet Parfum de Provence. Imagine how gobsmacked I was to discover that it was Dee-Lish, interchangeably. Shame on whomever didn’t stick with one or two names at best. This isn’t a rose that deserves such ambiguity.
REPLY
Reply #1 of 8 posted 16 JUN 19 by kgs
We just had a sudden heat wave with temps up to 100 degrees -- unusual for June in this area (Sonoma County, CA) and really hard on a lot of plants, roses and otherwise, particularly after our long, wet winter and delayed spring. Roses with delicate petals such as Gentle Hermione had completely frizzled blooms, and most of the plants had smaller buds afterwards, as if they were recovering from shock. Dee-lish was a notable exception: it didn't have a problem during or after the heat wave. Agree on its strong fragrance (which I like) and disease resistance. Due to the strange weather this spring some roses that normally shake off disease are experiencing mildew or BS, but not Dee-lish. Its blooms also last and last on the bush and as a cut flower.
REPLY
Reply #2 of 8 posted 16 JUN 19 by HubertG
I have decided to get this rose next season after reading these comments. Thank you both for your reviews.
REPLY
Reply #3 of 8 posted 6 JUL 19 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
HubertG you're very welcome. It certainly is a fantastic performer. Make sure you give it plenty of room, as it's very upright and seems to have settled at a fantastic 5-6 feet tall, where all the flowers are in perfect nose and eye range for being next to a walkway or where a medium shrub is needed.
It likes to throw random single flowers between flushes, which is really a nice attribute so there's not really any time it's completely barren. I believe it would appreciate a place where it gets lots of water on the roots. It does very well in heat, but can't tolerate drying out, and in fact does just fine in a little wet soil.
But when you sniff it the first time, you realize you won't want to be without it. Ever.
REPLY
Reply #4 of 8 posted 9 JAN 21 by HubertG
Eighteen months after my previous comment I finally got around to buying this rose. I missed out last season and saw it by chance in a local nursery where it's sold as 'Forget Me Not'. Its first flower is deliciously scented. Yes, I can definitely smell the pink grapefruit component but there are other more subtle layers in addition to this. I'll be interested to see how it develops over time. The colour reminds me of 'Lorraine Lee'. Planning on growing it in a good size pot for now as the label recommends this and there is a great photo here of a potted specimen. Already very glad I got this, thanks to your reviews.
REPLY
Reply #5 of 8 posted 20 APR 21 by RoseForest
I bought it recently and the one problem I am starting to see with it is the bloom. Although large and beautiful, petals feel rather delicate and the bloom seems to shatter/come apart relatively quickly.
REPLY
Reply #6 of 8 posted 20 APR 21 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
I’m glad to hear you have the ability to enjoying Dee-Lish! Patience with allowing it to develop, as it has Austin parentage, and those are always rewarding when given proper care. It’s truly worth the patience to allow its root system to develop. Some of my DA’s take 3 years before they’re in their full glory.
I can suggest to possibly make sure you’re getting some wood ash and fish emulsion to the soil on occasion. I’ve found that with certain roses, the petals will not be as robust and as able to stand up to sun, rain, temperature fluctuations, dry roots as well as when it’s got a nice robust root system and the nutrients it needs to develop good petals. I also use Bone Meal and Blood Meal depending on the plant situation.
I can tell you I get over 100” of rain each year and this rose holds up to it. However, it is an old fashioned form, so the petals are not thick like many HT’s like Mr L. or Angel Face. It’s definitely not a fast blow in my garden. It will hold its blooms for at least 3 days in extra hot weather, yet with fragrance.. and up to 5 days in ideal weather. I have some that blow overnight. This certainly isn’t one of those. Though I grow all my roses in the ground, so I’m not sure how this one does in pot culture, since it has quite an extensive root system for me. Seems too much for a pot, IMHO.
I truly hope this helps you problem solve on what might cause this rose to underperform, where it should do much better.
REPLY
Reply #8 of 8 posted 15 SEP 22 by RoseForest
Thank you for all the tips, Planetrj!
My Dee-lish is growing slowly but surely. Not a prolific bloomer yet but I do love the bloom.
REPLY
Reply #7 of 8 posted 9 MAY 21 by kgs
Roseforest, I have the same issue with my Dee-Lish. The blooms go very fast, particularly in warm weather, and it's not pretty, either. I'm not surprised to see it has DA lineage. I have tried to grow several DAs but the only one who hasn't had to be rehomed is Carding Mill. Sonoma County CA, 9b, is not England.

My plant is now several years old and I'm going to rehome it this fall. It's lovely in early spring, but I only have room for ca. 30 roses and this one just doesn't cut it.
REPLY
most recent 26 JUL 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 27 MAY 20 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
What a pleasure to have this one. It has beautiful disease-free glossy foliage, holds well to the plant and never defoliates in hot weather. Not at all bothered by rain or bad weather. Buds stay full for an extended period of time. They don’t shatter for 5 days, so the bush can end up filled with half open and fully open blooms at the same time. It has a nice form and naturally spreads out yet with stiff, fat canes, so as to not overcrowd or cross branches. Stays relatively stout, never achieving over 4’ tall here, and they tend to grow extra large in Hawaii.

Wonderfully abundant in flowers, it surprises every year as it will spit out random flowers every blooming month for me, which is just about every month except January. Fragrance is a combination of damask, raspberry, and a hint of cinnamon, which is apropos for this particular color, imho.

I would highly recommend this for the novice gardener and the pro alike, especially if you’re like me and do not spray. Just keep it fed, and it will supply abundant fragrant richly red, well formed and well-fragranced blossoms throughout the growing seasons. There is absolutely nothing bad I could say about this 5 Star Winner! ...except that it’s a must-have if you love red and love easy!
REPLY
Reply #1 of 4 posted 31 AUG 21 by anonymous_member
Thank you for your review on the Sweet Spirit. I am in 9b and just had a very humid and blazing hot Summer. Most of my roses didn't perform as well as they did. I am in search for some really heat tolerant roses whose color and fragrance don't fade in hot temperature and are relatively healthy and easy to care for. Based on your review, Sweet Spirit sounds like a good candidate, and I will get one this coming Fall.
Since you are located in 11b, do you have some recommendations of nice heat tolerant roses similar to Sweet Spirit? Thank you in advance for your opinion.
REPLY
Reply #2 of 4 posted 7 FEB 22 by kgs
I have to say all the reports about Sweet Spirit being disease-free surprise me, because last year (my first with this plant) it had really bad rust--in a garden of close to 30 bushes where other roses either had no rust or in one or two cases had a tiny amount I was able to eradicate by removing leaves. (I had never seen rust in my garden before, and I wonder if Sweet Spirit became a vector.) I am giving it a second chance because I was not good about any preventative treatment the previous winter and spring (cleaning up leaves, dormant spray, copper spray, etc.). But this year I'm back to good habits, and I'm giving this bush extra attention. If Sweet Spirit turns into a rust bucket again, out it goes. It stayed small and my guess is the extent of disease played a role in that. I'm not disbelieving the folks who have had good luck with this rose--no two plants are ever identical, and who knows what mutations might be at work. It definitely is Sweet Spirit and the handful of blooms it produced once the rust went away were lovely.
REPLY
Reply #3 of 4 posted 26 JUL 22 by Kim Rupert
Try increasing the water to the plant. It is often VERY easy to induce roses to mildew and rust by water stressing them.
REPLY
Reply #4 of 4 posted 26 JUL 22 by Kathy Strong
YES!
REPLY
most recent 19 JAN 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 JAN 22 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
Did anyone actually get any roses from RU this year?
I attempted to order, and I did so over the phone, but then I've never been charged on my card, no confirmation of order, no invoice sent, no receipt, no reply to my email.
I've placed orders elsewhere, since after waiting 9 weeks for a response, though I've ordered a smaller order from another nursery 4 weeks ago, and received them Saturday morning.

I'm curious if they have decided to only sell locally now. It would have been nice if they could have updated their website to inform of their actions (or inactions).
REPLY
Reply #1 of 1 posted 19 JAN 22 by Rose-Pixie
RU does not ship to the State of Hawaii. I live in Honolulu (Kapahulu), and I have my RU roses sent to my second home in Florida (Jupiter); furthermore, I have 15 roses on order from RU, and they will be shipped in 04/2022. You might want to order roses from K&M, but I got a hunch that they only take profitable orders, and it took a while for K&M to respond to my emails...they were short of employees around 09/2021, and I received my order in Florida around 10/2021. The following is a list or rose nurseries that I have ordered from, and they ship to Hawaii: A Reverance for Roses, Rogue Valley Roses, Heirloom Roses, High Country Roses, Burlington Rose Nursery
REPLY
© 2024 HelpMeFind.com