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ThomasR 
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19 SEP 09 by
Roland
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All the Dussi´s I have, look exactly like the moschata rose Prosperity
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#1 of 8 posted
6 APR 20 by
ThomasR
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The Dussi that I took pictures of is own-root and young. Although my picture is messy, I can see it has a distinctive foliage among other roses I grow, which I do not recognize in the photos of Prosperity...
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#2 of 8 posted
3 MAY 20 by
ThomasR
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I might have commented too quickly. The own-root Dussi I grow first showed its new leaves with a kind of teardrop shape (is there a name for that ?) but now they are larger and looking more usual so I went back to the Prosperity pictures for further examination. I could actually see the teardrop shape on carmenbcdc's photo, with the tip of the leaves wider and rounder. Also there is a yellowish green hue at the base of the petals, combined with a blushing center when the bloom is opening that I completely recognize. Frenchtearose site says it was introduced by Mr Branchi in 1998.
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i have seen them close to one another and Dussi seems like a Prosperity on steroids , with bigger fliowers
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Can we know approximately where and when "Dussi" was found? Somewhere in Europe, I gather?
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#5 of 8 posted
8 OCT 22 by
jedmar
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If it was introduced by Branchi, then 'Dussi' is from Italy
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most of his foundings were from Umbria / Latium. Branchi was a world reference on chinensis when it was not fashionable. I found ‘ found roses in Sweden, and I am Italian... i bought my first roses at his nursery in the first years of the 90’s , when he still had a more generic old rose nursery called Rose e Rose emporium, and back then he already had ‘Prosperity ‘ . Annamaria Sgarabottolo the ex owner of vivaio la campanella with whom i have collaborated for a decade , stated they are different, my idee is as i said before a Prosperity ‘ on steroids.
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Thank you for this most fascinating account. Might "Dussi" be a seedling of 'Prosperity'?
What else did Signor (I hope I have that right) Branchi find?
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#8 of 8 posted
10 OCT 22 by
jedmar
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Look up the nursery Branchi on this website (kept for reference), then the tab "Plant Introductions"
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I hope the plant is doing well for you. It looked like it was taking off beautifully one year ago!
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#1 of 4 posted
16 MAY 22 by
ThomasR
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Hi Hamanasu, I am very satisfied with Sweet Sultan ! I took several pictures of it last year but I didn't take the time to select and post them. It is quite vigorous, with beautiful dark green leaves. This year we had some freezing between the 4th and 5th of April, among days of strong wind, then summer-like temperatures. Most repeat-flowering roses missed their first blooming with big unburnt flowers and fresh dense foliage. On several plants -not only roses- fragrances are more discreet I think. However this is not the case on Sweet Sultan. The scent is fantastic. I planted it close to Sénégal, also very vigorous. I think you may like it, its cupped blooms are black purple velvet, and usually the air around it is filled with perfume. Could the semi-double bloom you pictured be a sport ? Maybe it would be worth growing a cutting from it... Best regards, Thomas.
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#2 of 4 posted
16 MAY 22 by
Hamanasu
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We also had rather unsettled spring weather (but in reverse compared to you) and many roses aborted (some of) their blooms when a cold snap followed a period of warmth... I'm glad Sweet Sultan is doing well for you. Unfortunately I must grow my roses in pots and climbers are always tricky to grow that way, which is why I never considered getting Senegal despite its undeniable beauty. Sweet Sultan seems to have settled ok, and gives me beautiful flowers, but the plant as a whole is not exactly lush, so it's good to hear of what it's capable in the ground!
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#3 of 4 posted
19 MAY 22 by
ThomasR
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Your garden looks great ! The light is beautiful on your pictures. The photo I took is messy and the light is harsh but I can feel Sweet Sultan's willingness to grow. I cut it at the beginning of Spring and do not water it, I will see how it behaves but it is healthy despite a few yellow leaves.
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#4 of 4 posted
19 MAY 22 by
Hamanasu
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Thank you! My plant of SS never looked half as beautiful as in you picture! It clearly likes being in the soil (and in you care). I think you should post the picture so that others will see it even if they don't read this comment exchange (there are never enough photos of the plant as a whole).
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There are two pictures of 1906 polyantha Coronet on the Roseraie du Val de Marne's website. The earlier reference says it was distinctive among other polyanthas from that time.
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Thank you, that's very interesting. I'll have to re-check my plant for prickles - there is one shown in a photo you mention. I think the colours of "Upper Beaconsfield" are more intense, but they do vary.
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#2 of 2 posted
19 MAY 22 by
ThomasR
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You are welcome. I used to live in Paris were Spring felt milder than in Occitanie, I do not know how it does affect roses Vs in your area in Australia, but the colors on your pictures look more intense I agree !
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Hi John Hook, your Nardy is looking so different than the one I purchased from Loubert, scent included ! The one I grow has rather mate leaves, not as narrowing on the tips as yours. There is always a very slight pink/cooper hue on its pale flowers. For some reason when it is labelled Noisette it is not thriving in my garden. Best regards, Thomas.
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