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Initial post 15 FEB by HMF Admin
HelpMeFind is proud to announce the naming of magnificent rose from breeder Paul Barden after HMF's co-founder Clara Thomson. We are eternally grateful to Paul for this honor. Clara would be over the moon!
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 15 FEB by Kim Rupert
Marvelous! What a wonderful tribute to her!
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 2 days ago by Paul Barden
I'm happy that I was able to make this well deserved tribute possible.
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Initial post 6 days ago by HMF Admin
So beautiful, thank you Paul
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Initial post 31 MAR
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 31 MAR by jedmar
In this case, the description in the reference states "few prickles". Thornless is never a default setting.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 31 MAR by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Few compared to what?

Again, few prickles is not same as, "thornless: , which is a misnomer in of itself, since roses don't have thorns at all.

We need an option for smooth, or free of prickles, because as it is, the option is nearly worthless, IMO.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 1 APR by Patricia Routley
Been there, done that. Refer Carolyn Knight Members Comments.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 1 APR by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Excellence is in the details, and the details here are insufficient and will be so until resolved.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 1 APR by HMF Admin
Adding additional descriptive options is certainly possible - one must merely make a request and present an appropriate case/need.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 1 APR by jedmar
First step could be to rename "thornless (or almost)" to "Few or no prickles". I am not sure if there is sufficient information on which roses have absolutely no prickles.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 1 APR by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I've created a number that have no prickles and even a smooth rachis.
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Reply #8 of 7 posted 1 APR by HMF Admin
Done
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most recent 26 MAR SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 8 DEC 19 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
After a three-year assessment, I would finally like to offer an overall observation of this plant. CSK has been growing in a no-spray garden for the last 3 years and 7 months. Though it has been growing at a slow pace and throwing out new canes on occasion, it seems to also do the same with 2-3 flowers here and there. It doesn't tend to have an overabundance of problems with BS, though it's not free from it by any means. It does tend to hold its foliage longer than many, and that might be part of the reason. However, CSK does have a huge problem with Mildew on the canes, and does not seem to subside or grow out of it. Though the plant is now well-established, it does not seem to win the battle completely.

As far as the flowers, it seems to have a nice fragrance. I would call it a solid moderate. It's definitely present. Nice combination, not overly sweet, spicy, or anything. Just a blurred balance. The bud stays closed for an entire day here, and that is less common in a HT, because of our warm climate. It also seems to appreciate a little afternoon shade. The petals don't shatter fast (3 days full), and that is a bonus.

It definitely redlines on being one of the closest to shovel pruning, and if I only had a limited space, I certainly wouldn't keep it. However, it will remain. Though it reminds me that some roses just do better if sprayed. It certainly doesn't belong in a no-spray garden, if you have any level of humidity or rain.

Alternatives: IF you're looking for a similarly growing multicolor and fragrant HT with a bit more disease resistance, then I would suggest Sheila's Perfume, which has a delightful more powerful fragrance, more flowers, yet is very healthy in all respects, does excellent in a No-spray environment, and even tolerates a little more sun and heat than CSK.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 8 DEC 19 by HMF Admin
Wow, would that we could get more HMF members to share their experience in such wonderful detail. Thank you for your participation.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 8 DEC 19 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
I appreciate that. This is the kind of content I would like to read about on other roses as well. Good karma :)
Also, I only will make a thorough assessment as this after giving it the ability to adjust and grow naturally. All too often, they will become completely different plants after they have settled in and adapted to nature outside of commercial greenhouse culture, where it's likely not growing in realistic conditions to an everyday collector or gardener. I believe all of this allows me to deliver a much more accurate summary.
I also encourage all of my plants to go Own Root, as my own experience has shown to improve the overall health and give it more tolerance to rain and BS. :)
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 26 MAR by Michael Garhart
I went back to Brigadoon. Since almost all in this color range seem to (sadly) get BS, I went back to the one with the most boom'. I had hoped a Gemini type would come along by now, but that never happened. Kordes released a rose call Color Splash, which is similar to CSK, except more flori-shrub, but its also a lot of plant with only moderate bloom.
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