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Jeri Jennings 
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"Grandmother's Hat" is NOT the same as 'Molly Sharman-Crawford'.
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That was one of the several potential identifications proposed by Bob Edberg based upon illustrations in old rose publications. Unfortunately, we'll never know just who it is. I sent bud wood of it to The Netherlands years ago in hopes someone there would be able to compare it to similar roses there. It hasn't ever happened.
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#2 of 5 posted
7 days ago by
Jay-Jay
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Kim,
Maybe I might shine some light on that in a personal message.
Once I got delivered 3 the same unknown roses instead of Gruss an Aachen.
I wasn't familiar with Grandmother's Hat... and today I looked at some photo's on HMF of it and for me the "false delivered Gruss an Aachen" and G.H. were similar. I gave those plants away.
Best Regards, Jay-Jay.
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Thanks, Jay-Jay. Good "seeing" you, by the way!
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The rose exhibitor community has been showing Grandmothers Hat under the name “Cornet” for decades. “Found” roses are not allowed at most shows, and apparently someone did a comparison in the literature, and that was the best approximation to the found rose that is everywhere in California.
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Another Bob Edberg effort. Bob's major effort was Limberlost Books. He found old colored plates he felt were sufficient matches for both of those identifications. And, it was based upon those plates he made them.
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24 AUG 08 by
Cass
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I counted the buds in a large cluster on this interesting found rose. The count was over 50 buds. The leaves have up to 9 leaflets.
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Need Photos?? I will add some!
Jeri Jennings
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I think I can add some more, too.
Jeri
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#5 of 5 posted
22 APR by
ThomasR
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Hi, the May 2009 picture by Cass caught my attention. It shows some buds whose petals are somehow leaking sideway out of the sepals.
Last spring I was investigating a rose previously found in the edge of an abandonned orchard, blooming from Spring to november. Its buds very recurrently showed the same habit, both on original plant and cutting. Whether looking at pictures or at other shrubs in my garden, I only found this habit on damask roses, some gallicas, the 'bourbon' Rouge Marbrée, and Belle De Baltimore, which is said to be a Gallica hybrid.
I didn't find the time to pursue my researches, but the 1846, and also 1848 references about damask perpetual Belle De Trianon and Vibert's work from it had me wonder if some of the old noisette-looking found roses could belong to another class... I am joining some pictures of the rose I found.
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And it says I have "unread private messages" but I can't get to them. I can't click on my name. It won't "click."
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22 OCT 23 by
Johno
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Click on MY ACCOUNT rather than your name. If you can see your name in the top right hand corner of the screen you are a member and are logged in.
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I got another one of those messages that notified me of a message -- but wouldn't let me look at it because I'm not a member.
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