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'AUSbrother' rose Reviews & Comments
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It appears that this rose has been "retired" by David Austin, according to various sources on the WWW. David Austin's US site shows it as "Out of Stock". The patent was applied for in 2005, meaning it is still under patent protection until 2025.
I ordered 2 plants direct from David Austin a few weeks ago. I hope they fill my order!
It's a really beautiful plant with the dark foliage. And I am really looking forward to sampling the fragrance of those blooms.
I know that DA also sells "Lady of Shallot", but it doesn't seem like a direct replacement.
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9 MAY 21 by
jac123
After a few years growing Lady Emma Hamilton I feel comfortable enough to talk about its performance. I bought it in summer 2018 as a grafted plant (probably on R. laxa) in a pot and planted it in the ground during the following winter. I think that its flowers are the most variable due to weather conditions out of all of my roses; the first blooms to open in May are solitary and medium sized (about 7/8 cm), with about 70 petals and peachy pink (definitely not orange). On the second flush (first days of July in my climate) the flowers are held in medium sized clusters of about 10 blooms, smaller (about 5cm) and just a bit more than semi-double (about 30 petals, but they keep a cup shape); the color starts as a tangerine orange, slowly fading to an attractive translucent pink. I think that her blooms may get flatter in shape in really hot climates, but keeps her cup shape in my climate. Blooms last about 5 days and they are definitely not prone to balling. Its fragrance is always strong and delicious, tasting like mature green grapes during spring and more like citrus (but more like oranges or tangerine than lemons) in hot summer days. In regard to the shrub shape, I find Lady Emma Hamilton to be unique, since it starts getting broad and only after a couple of seasons it gets taller. I suggest everyone who is disappointed by its performance in the first couple of years to give it time: you will be rewarded. I don't think the problem is lack of vigor, but to really appreciate its beauty you should wait for its basal canes to grow vigorous laterals, and this requires time. My Lady Emma Hamilton is very thorny on the main canes (it has a lot of prickles, but they are small and not extremely sharp, so it's not much of a problem), but is almost thornless on the laterals. I thin that in order to really appreciate its blooms you should feed it quite often; I can't really say about watering, since my climate is kind of rainy, especially during summer, and I don't water her at all. It reblooms quickly, producing 3 main flushes in my garden (mid May, beginning of July and October) with scattered flowers between. Even though I live in an area with high blackspot pressure, it does well in my no spray garden. It does get some spotting late in the summer, but seems unbothered by it and retains all of its foliage. I'm a rose hips lover and if left to Lady Emma Hamilton will produce many of them, but they are rather unattractive, remaining green on the outside with only some red spots; they look like they have been cut in half, since there are often seeds growing outside of the hip.
If you are interested in hybridizing, Lady Emma Hamilton is fertile as a seed parent and have a decent germination rate (about 30%), even thought its hips do not carry a huge number of seeds (about 4 or 5 on average). It passes her bronzy foliage on to many of her offspring
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In hot California, LEH fades to an unattractive buff color. I saw a row of LEH in pots at a nursery which had been left out in the sun, all were buff color.
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#2 of 3 posted
11 MAY 21 by
jac123
Probably as most Austins it does not appreciate extremely hot climate; maybe in California it would appreciate some shade in the afternoon. During summer it doesn't actually fade over here; its colour does get different from spring flush, but it's actually more saturated in summer
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great review, it's very helpful, thank you
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I would like to know if anyone growing LEH in a rainy environment has experienced this one balling in wet weather. I hope someone could chime in on this, because it’s the one concern the Southeast US and the tropics would have as a concern. I would say that balling is almost worse than an attack of BS. Thanks for any input.
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7 JAN 20 by
Erĕbus
Hi! I live in Tuscany in a very rainy and humid zone and it never happened to me. Jude the obscure's flowers ball very often but Lady Emma Hamilton's don't (They are planted next to each other).
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I can't say about balling, but it does fade badly, to an unattractive buff color, in California sun. Maybe needs afternoon shade?
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Thank you for your input on this. I didn’t order it for this year’s shipment, because I had seen so many mixed reviews elsewhere. Glad to hear it isn’t a stand out winner for anyone, as to miss out on the boat on something special. So far, very happy with Lady of Shalott, which seems to be closely resembling LEH from what I can see. However, not sure how the difference in fragrance would be, and just know that LOS’s extremely strong fragrance is nothing like any of my other Austins, or any other rose for that matter. No BS, No Mildew, No Balling, No Fading, throws random flowers all year, and holds its foliage all year so far. Next year will be it’s 3rd year, so I can fully evaluate and post it, but after it settled in (Own Root), it seems to keep getting better and better. Thank you for letting me know!
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13 JAN 20 by
Erĕbus
You're welcome! If I were you, I would give it a try! The fragrance is strong and detectable from afar, and mine doesn't fade to a buff colour, it becomes almost fluorescent. Bloom frequency is excellent, growth habit too, Mine gets BS in autumn but it's not a big deal since I remove any foliage that remains. This is where (according to David Austin's site) disease spores can lay dormant ready to challenge the plant next year. I'll attach some pictures below
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10 JUN 16 by
BroCad
This is year four for LEH in my garden. I have loved her from the beginning, even through an early scare with spider mites that took half of her in the first year before I knew what was happening. Since then she has not only recovered, but spread to around four feet in width and a height of around three feet. She gave me two new canes last year and another this spring. She is currently covered in buds, having opened only two flowers so far, which puts her as my latest of the returning roses. She vies with Munstead Wood as my most floriferous rose. Beautifully complex color range, intoxicating citrus fragrance, beautiful dainty, bronze new foliage, and little disease, usually confined to a bit of BS going into the fall. I understand some have had trouble wintering her in Northern Ohio, but I have her in a very sheltered spot where, with no special protection, she has come through two very fierce winters (those immediately preceeding this last very mild winter) with die-back to the snowline and a quick recovery. Outstanding rose in all respects.
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Is you LEH grafted, or is it own-root, thanks for any info. I prefer own-root, but a few people reported its being weak as own-root for cold zone.
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Mine are own-root but have continually bloomed through very high heat (over 110 F) for extended periods with daily watering in fast draining sandy soil. The size of the plant has stayed smaller than most Austins here in southern Z8, thankfully, with very nice foliage.
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