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'Jean Ducher' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 133-463
most recent 11 AUG SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 24 JUN 22 by Silvermoss
Does anyone have any information on how Jean Ducher performs as a cut flower?
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 24 JUN 22 by Margaret Furness
It's not on the Tea book list of good cut flowers.
Generally roses with fewer petals shatter faster than double ones.
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 24 JUN 22 by Silvermoss
Thanks for the prompt reply Margaret!
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 22 OCT 22 by FeralBlossom
If you are just cutting for your own home, she blooms profusely so can always offer a bloom or two for next to the bed or on the table. And watching her buds open inside is very pleasing.
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 25 OCT 22 by billy teabag
Are you referring to the original Jean Ducher (prickly stems, hated cool or wet conditions) or the thornless rose in commerce under this name which is actually G. Nabonnand?
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 25 OCT 22 by Margaret Furness
I didn't flag the incorrect name, as I assumed the original Jean Ducher was extinct, and therefore Silvermoss was referring to G Nabonnand.
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 25 OCT 22 by FeralBlossom
My rose is definitely not thornless. Wish she was!
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 25 OCT 22 by billy teabag
Exciting news if the original Jean Ducher does still exist FeralBlossom! I would love to see/read detailed photos and descriptions of your rose, and to hear about its history, as most roses sold under that name are G. Nabonnand.
Embarrassing admission re G. Nabonnand. I grew it, tended it and cut hundreds of blooms from it for quite a few years before realising that the stems were bare of prickles and I'm thinking it must be because the little prickles that run down the backs of the leaves are so sharp.
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 11 AUG by Silvermoss
There is a "Jean Ducher" being sold by Wagner's (Australia) at the moment. Which one would it be? The description on their website says the following:

"A hardy, easy to grow rose that deserves a spot in the garden, with its salmon-pink colouring washed with yellow and near thornless branches. Jean Ducher has a bushy upright habit with dark green dense foliage.

Fragrance: Strong.

Height: to 150cm.

Category: Tea"

Are they actually selling G Nabonnand then?
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 11 AUG by billy teabag
Highly likely Silvermoss.
It's based on a mistaken identification in the 1970s and was widely distributed under the incorrect name.
Over time it became clear that an error had been made and that the original Jean Ducher was a very different rose but many nurseries are not interested in correcting the name.
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Discussion id : 62-974
most recent 25 MAR 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 MAR 12 by CybeRose
The Country, 3: 374 - Oct. 29, 1874
Jean Ducher (Widow Ducher), very vig., large, &c, globular, salmon yellow centre, shaded red peach.
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