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Lovely garden. May it live long and prosper.
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Hopefully the family can get it back one day.
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I missed the info about what had happened to it. Yes, may it be there waiting for the family when they can go back.
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#3 of 3 posted
2 days ago by
 jedmar
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The garden is in Melitopol, which is under occupation since 2022.
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'Alister Clark' finally snuffed it, and I don't want another one. It's just too nasty to work around. Not sure if the parent 'Marjory Palmer' is equally fangsome.
'Comtesse du Cayla' also snuffed it, and is probably worth replacing at some point.
'Gruss an Teplitz' died some time back, and was a rather nice rose. Should get another one sometime.
'Marie Lambert' is looking like it might snuff it. Definitely worth replacing.
'Mister Lincoln' snuffed it .Also worth replacing. Look into other red stinkbombs too.
'Mutabilis' snuffed it, and 'Old Blush' was conquered by the multiflora rootstock. Probably worth getting replacements at some point.
'Perle d'Or' is also kaput and would be worth replacing. Ditto for its sport 'Ravensworth'. Both of these are really nice roses and are worth having.
''Rose Hedge Cottage Pink ROR'' is kaput too, and offhand I don't remember being particularly impressed by anything about it. If I can't remember I probably don't need it.
'Safrano' and 'Souvenir de St. Anne's' also snuffed it. Both are superb roses and well worth replacing.
'Sœur Emmanuelle' is gone too. It had good scent but (IMO) nothing else in its favour.
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"Rose Hedge Cottage Pink" has the ability to produce flowers of different colours, ranging from dark pink to almost white, at the same time. They have a satiny sheen. In my previous minimal-prune garden it got huge, about 8m across, and a couple of people say it wants to be a climber. Probably just as well you lost it!
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Oh hang on, now you just made me think I want it again. :D
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Newbie gardener here; I have never attempted growing roses. I have a 5-foot pillar style trellis in a small space that I want to buy a climbing rose for (zone 7a, 5-6 hours direct light). The Eden climber seems quite robust and an attractive option; however, it is usually described as being a medium to large climber. Is there any downside to planting a large climbing cultivar and just pruning it regularly to keep the size under control for a smaller space? I know there are small climbers available, but there are more limited options for those sizes.
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As an essential question: what makes the space small - is it somewhere with passers-by? Ie would you be safer with a thornless rose?
I'd suggest you find a local nursery or garden club (or heritage roses group) and ask what will thrive in your area.
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Thank you for share this information..........
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14 days ago by
MalinH
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Not Mme Alfred Carrière
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#1 of 14 posted
14 days ago by
Nastarana
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Out of curiosity,, how do you know? What characteristics are you looking at to make your determination?
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#3 of 14 posted
14 days ago by
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I agree too with MalinH. See the two photos I just posted:
- Mme AC has not very densely packed blooms, with petals which are more elongated
- The buds are ovoid pointed, not rounded
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#5 of 14 posted
13 days ago by
Nastarana
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Thank you. I think I am seeing the difference, especially in the buds.
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#2 of 14 posted
14 days ago by
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I tend to agree on this.
The photo John took earlier is the real-one. You might compare Yourselves Nastarana.
Rose photo courtesy of Johno
Anglesey Abbey Gardens, UK, 23/6/23.
Uploaded 22 JUL 23
www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.413376
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It would be interesting to know whether the rose photographed repeat-flowers, which Johno isn't in a position to tell us.
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Looks like Félicité et Perpétue
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That was my kneejerk reaction too!
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Great minds Margaret!
The buds look like my 'White Pet', which of course, is a sport of Félicité et Perpétue.
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#9 of 14 posted
12 days ago by
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#10 of 14 posted
11 days ago by
Johno
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I am happy to remove the offending photos. The label was nailed to the post so I would assume the garden was sold an incorrect plant to begin with. I have to admit, I am finding it hard to identify the difference.
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It's easy if you've grown MME. Alfred. She's quite different.
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#12 of 14 posted
11 days ago by
Jay-Jay
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Hi Johno
Photo wasn't experienced as offending by me.
Maybe someone mixed up the labels.
And I agree with Robert Neil Rippetoe: Once growing this rose, You'll never confuse another rose for it.
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#13 of 14 posted
9 days ago by
MalinH
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There are four more photos that you need to remove. Not Mme Alfred Carriere of none of your pictures.
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#14 of 14 posted
7 days ago by
Johno
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Removed three. The system seems not to allow more than three deletes at the one time.
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