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Margaret Furness
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Initial post 19 MAY by Margaret Furness
I looked this up because the name seemed unusual. From Wikipedia: "Château Gruaud-Larose is a winery in the Saint-Julien appellation of the Bordeaux region of France. It is also the name of the red wine produced by this property. The wine produced here was classified as one of fifteen Deuxièmes Crus in the original Bordeaux Wine Official Classification of 1855."
You'd think they would have been offered a red rose.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 19 JUN by Nastarana
The rose pictured is stunningly beautiful. This could perhaps be sold in the USA as e.g., Rose Castle, a clumsy translation to be sure, but one which might not put off a buying public which must have its' easy to remember names.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 8 JUL by PierreLaPierre
I can confirm that this rose is indeed stunning and have planted 3 here in our gardens. We are in the lower Cévennes France Zone 7a or 7b. The scent is of lychee fruit and very pleasant it is too. Our soil is slightly acidic and the first bare-root was planted three years ago and after six months in October finally flowered with one solitary but stunning rose the second season was very generous and gave us huge clusters like a floribunda which were simply ready made bouquets ( see photos from last summer ). Now I’ve pegged it and stands almost six foot tall and has blooms all over and is one of the healthiest roses here with next to no BS.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 3 days ago by RoseLover1
Hello,
I purchased a Gruaud Larose through Palatine. How much sun does yours receive (ex: full sun, morning sun/afternoon shade)?
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 3 days ago by PierreLaPierre
Hello Roselover1

Our most mature plant receives full sun it is pointing almost due south. In fact just had some friends visit the gardens earlier and Gruaud had one saturated ( we’ve had a week of very heavy rain ) half-open flower poking out so I picked it off and presented it as a gift to one of the visitors. With all the rain I wasn’t expecting the rose to have much of a scent but voilà - yes quite perfumed with a strong citrus-lychee note. Lovely scent.

We have four now and the mature one is 3 years old standing at well over 6ft tall and 4ft + wide after only light pruning in March. There must be well over 150 buds on it right now.

Happy gardening. Peter

PS this one is in it’s fourth season was quite slow to develop took around 18 months to establish, one flower then 3-4 then last year dozens and dozens sometimes in groups of 5 or 6 held up almost in a ready-made bouquet.
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Initial post 5 days ago by Anna Mertens
Could you please share if this rose blooms later in the summer/autumn time? I think to buy it, but not a lot information how she is blooming after first wave.
Thank you so much in advance
With best regards,
Anna
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 5 days ago by Margaret Furness
I have not seen any repeat flower after the spring flowering (in Australia, where it is a survivor rose in churchyards).
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 4 days ago by Anna Mertens
Thank you so much!
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Initial post 4 days ago by ChrisBC
Does this rose produce hips? The Austin UK website says it does, but the US site does not mention it.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 4 days ago by Margaret Furness
It does have one descendant listed as 'Seedling of Malvern Hills x Penelope'.
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Initial post 3 DEC 21 by Margaret Furness
Would someone who grows "Kombacy Marianne" please comment on whether they have ever seen hips on it.
I note that Mme De Watteville has three descendants, as seed parent.
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Reply #1 of 14 posted 3 DEC 21 by HubertG
I've only had my cutting-grown plant for a short time and it's still in a pot but I was very curious to know whether it would set hips and so have looked carefully for stigma and stamen etc in most of its flowers. Generally they weren't formed but in one flower there were several normal-looking stigma and I pollinated them using pollen at hand. It seemed to take and swell quite quickly as if a normal hip would develop, but unfortunately recent wet weather caused it to start browning and it rotted off. In my limited experience, my speculation is that hips won't set naturally very often but it's quite possible that careful artificial fertilisation might produce some hips. I'd be curious to know others' experience too.
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Reply #2 of 14 posted 3 DEC 21 by Patricia Routley
I don’t think I have ever seen a hip, but can’t guarantee that. I like to deadhead this plant and will tie a bit of ribbon to it to alert me to watch for anything.
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Reply #3 of 14 posted 3 DEC 21 by Margaret Furness
Thank you.
Mme de Watteville also has a descendant listed, as pollen parent.
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Reply #4 of 14 posted 5 AUG by HubertG
I noticed that my winter flowers this year had relatively normal looking stigma and there seems to be a hip developing on one at the moment, I'd say about two months old and it's rather oval-shaped.
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Reply #5 of 14 posted 5 AUG by Margaret Furness
For the next edition of the Mystery Roses booklet (which will only be on-line), I'm asking those who grow any of them to let me know if they're seed-fertile. I don't know whether a hip set in winter will ever ripen. Anyway, if the hip looks like it will persist, I'd love a photo of it, please.
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Reply #6 of 14 posted 8 AUG by HubertG
Margaret, here's the hip on my plant. It isn't large; just 13mm across and about 20mm long. I suspect that there is a seed or two in there otherwise it would not have remained on the plant, which is still a young cutting-grown plant in a pot. If it ripens or falls off I'll let you know what it contains. Please feel free to use the photo, Margaret, if you think it's worthwhile.
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Reply #7 of 14 posted 8 AUG by Margaret Furness
Thank you! I'll be interested to see if anything comes of it.
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Reply #8 of 14 posted 11 AUG by billy teabag
You are a hip-whisperer HubertG! I have checked thousands of spent blooms on our plant over the years and have yet to find anything that didn't dry up and drop off. Yours look promising.
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Reply #9 of 14 posted 12 AUG by jedmar
Reassigned your two hip photos to "Kombacy Marianne"
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Reply #10 of 14 posted 12 AUG by HubertG
Thank you billy teabag and jedmar. Nothing may come of the hip but the fact that it has stayed on for this long is encouraging. I noticed yesterday on my plant five new shoots growing from the abscission layer from where an old flower stem fell off. I did think it was interesting enough to post a photo of it, so I'll try to do that tomorrow.
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Reply #11 of 14 posted 6 days ago by Margaret Furness
Did you get any seeds from the hip?
Margaret
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Reply #12 of 14 posted 6 days ago by HubertG
Margaret, sorry I forgot to follow up on this. In short, no, there were no seeds in the hip. It started to blacken prematurely and there was nothing inside that even approached looking like seeds. I was a little disappointed because I got my hopes up. I just posted a couple of photos, for what it's worth.
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Reply #13 of 14 posted 6 days ago by Margaret Furness
Thank you.
And Mme de Watteville has three offspring listed, as seed parent. Hmmm.
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Reply #14 of 14 posted 6 days ago by HubertG
Maybe only two offspring as a seed parent if the 1911 'The Garden' reference to 'Else Schüle' being a sport of 'Mme. de Watteville' is correct. I wouldn't doubt that under ideal conditions "Kombacy Marianne" might set a few hips with a few seeds. I think the relative lack of offspring of 'Mme. de Watteville' supports that theory that "Kombacy Marianne" is that rose.
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