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Does anyone have any information on how Jean Ducher performs as a cut flower?
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It's not on the Tea book list of good cut flowers. Generally roses with fewer petals shatter faster than double ones.
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Thanks for the prompt reply Margaret!
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If you are just cutting for your own home, she blooms profusely so can always offer a bloom or two for next to the bed or on the table. And watching her buds open inside is very pleasing.
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Are you referring to the original Jean Ducher (prickly stems, hated cool or wet conditions) or the thornless rose in commerce under this name which is actually G. Nabonnand?
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I didn't flag the incorrect name, as I assumed the original Jean Ducher was extinct, and therefore Silvermoss was referring to G Nabonnand.
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My rose is definitely not thornless. Wish she was!
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Exciting news if the original Jean Ducher does still exist FeralBlossom! I would love to see/read detailed photos and descriptions of your rose, and to hear about its history, as most roses sold under that name are G. Nabonnand. Embarrassing admission re G. Nabonnand. I grew it, tended it and cut hundreds of blooms from it for quite a few years before realising that the stems were bare of prickles and I'm thinking it must be because the little prickles that run down the backs of the leaves are so sharp.
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There is a "Jean Ducher" being sold by Wagner's (Australia) at the moment. Which one would it be? The description on their website says the following:
"A hardy, easy to grow rose that deserves a spot in the garden, with its salmon-pink colouring washed with yellow and near thornless branches. Jean Ducher has a bushy upright habit with dark green dense foliage.
Fragrance: Strong.
Height: to 150cm.
Category: Tea"
Are they actually selling G Nabonnand then?
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Highly likely Silvermoss. It's based on a mistaken identification in the 1970s and was widely distributed under the incorrect name. Over time it became clear that an error had been made and that the original Jean Ducher was a very different rose but many nurseries are not interested in correcting the name.
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I grew two of these from Wairere Nurseries in Nelson in full sun and they were vigorous growers with lovely fat blooms. However: they did NOT smell at all. So I didn't bring them to our new house. However, now I'm reconsidering. Save a bit of black spot and needing to be given space to grow they were pretty happy.
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