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Margaret Furness 
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Can anyone advise if this rose is available in Australia please ?
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No gardens or sellers listed, no photos. Not all nurseries list their plants on helpmefind, but I don't think you'll find it.
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I've long read Banksiae seed can require two years to germinate. I've raised four seedlings from open pollinated Lutescens. Two have been fully double and one semi double with tulip shaped buds. The fourth succumbed to terminal mildew in infancy. This double yellow Banksiae is from OP Lutescens seed.
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Nice. But for clarification: did they take two years to germinate?
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Hi Margaret, sorry about that. No ma'am. All four of the self seedlings for Lutescens I've raised required only four months from planting. I've not kept any planted longer than one season so I have no idea what may germinate later. I haven't room nor patience for that long keeping tables of dirt. What you see was out of the ground in literally 120 days from planting.
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Thank you. So, a fair chance they'll repeat? (We say in Aus that a seed planted in August (winter) should flower by Christmas if it's going to repeat.)
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I live in a cool coastal climate. Here, Banksiaes "repeat" two to four times a year, literally. They will begin flowering, we'll have a short heat spell and they stop, then it cools and they start flowering again. But, then, I have apples which flowered all summer long last year. The seeds germinated quickly, but they took several years to flower.
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Thank you. Sounds like they're confused...
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So the question arises: did it sport or revert?
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This is listed as "Archduke Joseph" (with no description) in the Mount Barker Courier of 11 April, 1902, page 3, in an article describing the Aldgate Nursery of Messrs. Smith and Menzel in South Australia.
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I am sure Archduke was a pretty common mis-spelling in Australia. I know ‘Archiduc Charles’ copped it as well for decades.
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I've come across a wonderful example of how names blur. Peach Melba, as a favourite of US sailors eating out at a Barcelona restaurant, became pijama (pyjamas) among the Catalan kitchen staff, and variants of the dish were for a while part of Catalan cuisine. (Wiki).
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#3 of 5 posted
2 MAY 20 by
HubertG
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Sorry, my point was not really that there was an obvious synonym but that this rose was available at a South Australian nursery rather early on. (Note to self - best not to post at 3am in bed lol).
The Aldgate nursery was also the only nursery in Australia found in old archives so far to have sold 'Albert Stopford', so, as they seemed to have imported a lot of varieties, I do wonder if any foundlings in that region might be rather rare or obscure cultivars.
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Have just come across this posting. Yes, we have found some rarities in the area. Eg what we think is Geschwind's Orden in the next little town, Mylor. And a nice HP, "Mylor Primary", one of the many pink-and-silvers. And the ubiquitous (in southern Australia and NZ) "Hugh Childs".
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9 APR by
HubertG
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If I recall correctly, that Aldgate nursey was quite a large affair, so the chances of any foundling from Mylor having been purchased at that nursery are extremely high in my opinion. A nursery list or two from that time would be handy to narrow down the Mylor foundling possibilities.
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